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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Even bioware's game usually force you into one path, in the end you end up saving the world anyway. The most evil choice I remember is the ending of Fable where you can become the bad guy. But before the ending, the branching usually aren't that different.
    The evil ending of Jade Empire has you defiling the body of a god using the blood of the party members who thought it was a bad idea, then becoming a ruthless dictator who makes the dude you replaced look like a hippie.
    ...yeah that was the game that tipped BioWare towards making morally grey games from then on >_> Funny part was the morality meter was SUPPOSED to not be evil vs. good, instead being "self sufficient" vs. "nurturing."
    Oh, and the party members you use as a sacrifice can be as few as one or two being ganged up on by the rest, whom you can corrupt to be evil.
    One of your party members is a child possessed by demons with a kind of yin/yang theme. You can choose the "yang" to have control. She sounds like the girl from the Exorcist.
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    Last edited by kyuven; 04-18-2015 at 12:01 AM.

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    Light all the way baby.
    Got over my silly dark phase well over a decade ago.
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  3. #33
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    I like how people assume that "Warrior of Darkness" immediately means a villain. The Warriors of Darkness in FF3 saved the world from the Light. I'd totes play a heroic Warrior of Darkness.
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    Anyone here read up on the dark knight infornation? Sounds like at least their lore might be up the ambiguous alley.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacost View Post
    I like how people assume that "Warrior of Darkness" immediately means a villain. The Warriors of Darkness in FF3 saved the world from the Light. I'd totes play a heroic Warrior of Darkness.
    That's probably because no one in the thread has asked or answered a simple question:

    "What does a Warrior of Darkness do and how is it different from Warrior of Light?"

    Because that was never clarified, people just assumed it was another "I wanna play an evil character" topic. Doesn't matter to me, though. You're still gonna be someone's gofer in the end. It's an MMO.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrejyaAthenes View Post
    That's probably because no one in the thread has asked or answered a simple question:

    "What does a Warrior of Darkness do and how is it different from Warrior of Light?"

    Because that was never clarified, people just assumed it was another "I wanna play an evil character" topic. Doesn't matter to me, though. You're still gonna be someone's gofer in the end. It's an MMO.

    I just thought of something...

    What if instead of only getting quests from a person, like the eternal errand boy, you got quests from an object, say a ledger? Wouldn't that allow quests and plot opportunities that the character starts of their own volition, a situation where they become their own master?
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    Last edited by Kallera; 04-18-2015 at 02:08 AM.

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I just thought of something...

    What if instead of only getting quests from a person, like the eternal errand boy, you got quests from an object, say a ledger? Wouldn't that allow quests and plot opportunities that the player starts of their own volition, a situation where they become their own master?
    ...No. Unless you yourself is the one writing the ledger (which I'm pretty sure is either impossible or a nightmare to program), you're still just taking orders in the end. Now instead of a person, it's a book.
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  8. #38
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    This game is not a sandbox MMORPG, it's story driven, and you have a specific role in that story - Warrior of Light. for those that want to follow a more ambivalent path, there are games that cater to that, for those that wish to play on the dark side of the force, there are games that cater to that. This is an FF game, you are the hero, you do heroic deeds for the sake of doing the right thing, deal with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riastrad View Post
    Games always make us pick a side. Life is made of more colors than black and white.
    No, I think you're wrong. Life is one big string of choosing sides. Life has many colors, yes. But, when push comes to shove, everything always comes down to picking a side. Fundamental rule of life - you always have to pick which side you're on.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 04-18-2015 at 01:37 AM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    This game is not a sandbox MMORPG, it's story driven, and you have a specific role in that story - Warrior of Light. for those that want to follow a more ambivalent path, there are games that cater to that, for those that wish to play on the dark side of the force, there are games that cater to that. This is an FF game, you are the hero, you do heroic deeds for the sake of doing the right thing, deal with it.
    Many games still play with the premise of if heroic thing is truly heroic. AVALANCHE being a good example. Even if you cannot refuse the plot, there are still points in the story you can influence with decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by FrejyaAthenes View Post
    ...No. Unless you yourself is the one writing the ledger (which I'm pretty sure is either impossible or a nightmare to program), you're still just taking orders in the end. Now instead of a person, it's a book.
    Sorry, I mixed up the words player and character. What I meant was the object(or other non person actor) serving as a method for the character we are playing as being the instigator of their own quest. Similar to the "waiting at the train station" scene's depiction of internal thoughts in 2.55.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 04-18-2015 at 01:41 AM.

  10. #40
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    I just want my character to be more interactive. I feel like I'm there half the time. Instead having me /nod like a tard, give me an option to do like /huh or /think. You can still make me do the same objective but word it like, oh I questioned Minfilia but she says that we could benefit from having Limsa as allies or w/e. That's all I really want.
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