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  1. #51
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    FallenArisen0990's Avatar
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    What makes you so sure Poetics will be removed entirely? They're used for obtaining level 50 gear, while Law and Esoterics are presumably meant for level 60. So it would make sense to keep Poetics around to account for the item level spike at 50.
    Reason being because SE isn't pulling a Genkai like XI so everyone will have access to lv 60. Also because it is pointless to keep both. If this was the case, why change tomes in the first place when all they had to do is just remove items from the NPCs. This game has a lot of limitations because of character data being "overloaded" and the fact that SE can't apparently just increase storage. Let's say you are locked out of tomes, that doesn't stop a non-expansion player from gearing up to 60 from the MB or crafted gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    Reason being because SE isn't pulling a Genkai like XI so everyone will have access to lv 60. Also because it is pointless to keep both. If this was the case, why change tomes in the first place when all they had to do is just remove items from the NPCs. This game has a lot of limitations because of character data being "overloaded" and the fact that SE can't apparently just increase storage. Let's say you are locked out of tomes, that doesn't stop a non-expansion player from gearing up to 60 from the MB or crafted gear.
    There's no chance of players without Heavensward being able to level to 60.

    There will be players that don't have the expansion right away, which certainly includes any new players because the expansion offers them nothing beyond Au'ra existing. So those players will still have to be able to buy things with tomestones at 50.

    Rolling soldiery into poetics and uncapping poetics makes the most sense here. It eases the gear grind significantly for newer and transitioning players and keeps the player currency count where it is.
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  3. #53
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Whatever the case is, I'm actually NOT looking forward to another gear treadmill. I really hope that they look at the expansion as an opportunity to expand sideways instead of merely upwards. With each new item almost indistinguishable from anything else of the same level, there's very little variety beyond 'getting a higher tier'. A far removal from many other games which have a distinct amount of variety in each tier.

    And no, I don't merely mean fashion. I'm talking statistics. Whether you choose spell speed over crit or accuracy over skill speed, what real difference does it make at the end of the day? A few points of DPS here, a few points of healing there. We need real differences. FFXI had the right idea with its equipment, and they need to take a leaf out of its book.
    Definitely agree Lemuria.

    I really hope Yoshi P looks at 3.0 as a chance to focus on the Breadth of (Variety) of Gear. Unique Stats, Meaningful Secondary Stats, etc.

    We don't need a faster Vertical Progression. If we did, is Yoshi P trying to catch up to WoW and end up having to "Refactor" (squash) all Stats down after they got so inflated their Stats were comically too high?

    I don't want to see Item Level 700(!!!) when we're only Level Capped at Level 60. Ugh.

    Give people choices and creativity in their Gearing, not the boring Itemization we had in 2.0.
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    So technically its going to be the same gear progression as 2.0 but this time we are doing this in ishgard etc.
    Wow i felt so uninclined to cap poetics due to the fact that we all were like gasp must cap tomes since we first unlocked tomes of philosophy.
    -Philo tomes
    -Myth tomes
    -Sol tomes
    -Poe tomes
    -Erotic lol tomes
    -Law tomes
    It might turn out to be another ilvl zerg fest where at the end of day variation in gear won't do much.
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  5. #55
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    So technically its going to be the same gear progression as 2.0 but this time we are doing this in ishgard etc.
    Wow i felt so uninclined to cap poetics due to the fact that we all were like gasp must cap tomes since we first unlocked tomes of philosophy.
    -Philo tomes
    -Myth tomes
    -Sol tomes
    -Poe tomes
    -Eso(teric) tomes
    -Law tomes
    It might turn out to be another ilvl zerg fest where at the end of day variation in gear won't do much.
    FTFY, we already have SEX farming in game, we don't need another pr0n reference floating about lol :P
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  6. #56
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    There's no chance of players without Heavensward being able to level to 60.

    There will be players that don't have the expansion right away, which certainly includes any new players because the expansion offers them nothing beyond Au'ra existing. So those players will still have to be able to buy things with tomestones at 50.

    Rolling soldiery into poetics and uncapping poetics makes the most sense here. It eases the gear grind significantly for newer and transitioning players and keeps the player currency count where it is.
    They can always let let level 50 content occassionally grant a sliver of Law before higher content fully transitions to Law/Esoterics.
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