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    Considering Ishgardians would be experts in Draconic anatomy having studied their capabilities and how best to kill them, I wouldn't be surprised if the apparent biological traits wouldn't carry some weight with the Ishgardian leaders if nothing else. Ishgard is desperate for help.

    Doesn't mean the average Ishgardian won't be distrustful of them but then again they are distrustful of all outsiders.
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    New lore actually states Au Ra are unrelated to dragons. So I see no problem once the Ishgardians get past superficial similarities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    New lore actually states Au Ra are unrelated to dragons. So I see no problem once the Ishgardians get past superficial similarities.
    They have to DO that first. and Overcoming racism is a huge thing, especially when the prejudice is set in with religious zealotry over centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LycorisSelunis View Post
    They have to DO that first. and Overcoming racism is a huge thing, especially when the prejudice is set in with religious zealotry over centuries.
    Never said it'd be easy or fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    New lore actually states Au Ra are unrelated to dragons. So I see no problem once the Ishgardians get past superficial similarities.
    They'd first have to be convinced of the truth of that. What lore we've seen says "horns and ... scales that characterize the Au Ra oft give rise to speculation that [they] are, in fact, the progeny of dragons. This, however, has long been disputed, with scholars citing ..."

    Given how xenophobic Ishgardians seem to be, and especially their paranoia regarding possible dravanian connections, I'm guessing a lot of this speculation regarding that connection is coming from them. (Well, within the world lore it would be coming from them at any rate. That reference is probably just SE playing off how much we as players have been speculating about it.) Scholars are disputing it, and with enough reasons that they're probably right, but that doesn't mean that the Ishgardians have been convinced.

    We've got rational scientific arguments pitted against xenophobic paranoia that's reinforced with religious zealotry.
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    I hope there is an actual play on this, I would love if some npc interactions changed based on race.
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    The Lore about Au Ra physiology is ambiguous and will probably remain as such. Reminds me of the miqo'te being descendants of cats lore debate.

    Hopefully, there'll be npcs talking about the au ra.
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    I believe that with the ascion influence over the holy see that with the quelling of the thousand year war at the end of 3.0 the ishgardians hatred towards dragon kin will also fall to the way side and they will eventually grow to be more open minded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    It's a shame how Yugiri's reveal was. I thought there'd be more reaction to it.

    Anyway, it'll probably be explained off-screened. Although if there's somehow more Auri npcs than there are male Miqo'te I'll be angry
    I won't be. Honestly, we've more than enough Miqo'te in the game as is. Players and NPCs. Diversity is key!

    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post

    For the record though we have had multiple clues already that the Au'Ra are indeed half Dravanian; the most obvious being the story of Shiva sleeping with a dragon at the same time we're introduced to a half-draconic race. Whilst it has still not been outright confirmed, saying 'nothing so far has indicated that' is completely false.
    No. Wind-up Odin doll debunks Shiva as being the mother of the Au'ra completely.
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    Last edited by PotatoSalad; 04-28-2015 at 11:08 AM.

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    Well, let me ask this: if you play as a Duiskwight Elezen, do any NPCs around Gridiania act differently?
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