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    I checked both "aggro" and "hate", as I use them for different instances.

    "Aggro" is enmity you did not intend/were supposed to build. ("Damn Sapsa Spawning Grounds, I always get aggro from every single monster I pass by.")
    "Hate" is enmity you or someone else did intend/are supposed to build ("Tank, are you AFK? I got hate and you're just standing there.")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    I checked both "aggro" and "hate", as I use them for different instances.
    same and basically used the exact same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    I checked both "aggro" and "hate", as I use them for different instances.

    "Aggro" is enmity you did not intend/were supposed to build. ("Damn Sapsa Spawning Grounds, I always get aggro from every single monster I pass by.")
    "Hate" is enmity you or someone else did intend/are supposed to build ("Tank, are you AFK? I got hate and you're just standing there.")
    I use "Aggro" to denote the initial detection by the mob to the player/party.
    I use "hate" to denote the priority value a mob has from player actions, when a person "has hate", at the very least, the mob is targeting that person with auto attacks, usually they are the target of far more, but hate 's value can also extend to other party members, who can be the target of secondary attacks based on how much hate they have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I use "Aggro" to denote the initial detection by the mob to the player/party.
    I use "hate" to denote the priority value a mob has from player actions, when a person "has hate", at the very least, the mob is targeting that person with auto attacks, usually they are the target of far more, but hate 's value can also extend to other party members, who can be the target of secondary attacks based on how much hate they have.
    Whenever I'm in a party for whatever, and someone comments that tank should "Control Aggro/Take Aggro back", it really really bugs the hell out of me, because for so many years I have used the terms as you have, the FFXI way. Annoys me just as much as the term 'toon' which others have already shared their disgust of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    I checked both "aggro" and "hate", as I use them for different instances.

    "Aggro" is enmity you did not intend/were supposed to build. ("Damn Sapsa Spawning Grounds, I always get aggro from every single monster I pass by.")
    "Hate" is enmity you or someone else did intend/are supposed to build ("Tank, are you AFK? I got hate and you're just standing there.")
    I use Aggro in a different way from my days playing WoW.

    Aggro is the state of being targeted by an enemy due to your threat (note how this includes getting targeted by an enemy due to proximity, as proximity places you on its threat list, giving you highest threat). Hate/Threat/Enmity is simply the value that is used by the enemy to determine who to target. In WoW it was important to distinguish between aggro and threat because:
    • Melee range players will only obtain aggro if their threat exceed 110% of current aggro holder. Outside of melee range, one needed 130% I think, can't remember.
    • Taunts have a forced aggro period in which targeting is forced and not dependent on threat values.
    So I sometimes would say "someone has aggro" to mean top enmity and targeted, but very rarely now.

    In FFXIV:ARR I prefer to use enmity, but when I think I'm talking to someone unfamiliar with the term, I'll use "hate".
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