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    Rename some old abilities to fit the naming conventions of past Final Fantasy games

    Leeches -> Basuna, or Erase(renamed to previous FF status removing abilities like Basuna or Erase)
    Life Surge -> Lancet(delivers an attack which usually drains HP/MP in most FF games, and in many games the animation involves dragon spirits enrobing the player or the target,which is Life Surge's current animation)
    Blood Bath -> Blood Weapon(this is what it was called in previous FF games)
    Berserk->Warcry (typically a Warrior ability that increases your damage without lowering defense, as opposed to Berserk which does)
    Blood for Blood->Berserk (In FF and FFXI, berserk increased attack but lowered defense.
    Foresight -> Defender (Forsight in 1.0 was what Keen Flurry is now, parry rate. Defender is a classic WAR ability in FF games which reduces damage)
    Second Wind -> Chakra (In every FF game MNK's self cure is Chakra.

    It's like class abilities were named by developers who never picked up an FF game before. Please rename these abilities!
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    Also a few abilities had their functions completely changed in 2.0 from 1.0 but the names remain the same, as such, the names of the following abilities no longer match their function making them very awkward sounding:

    Feint (used to be similar to Haymaker)
    Keen Flurry(This used to increase accuracy of your attacks, hence the name. The current properties of enhanced parrying no longer fit with the name of the ability).

    I'm sure there's a few other abilities or spells with awkward names due to properties being altered from 1.0 to 2.0 that perhaps should get a rename.
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    A lot of the names come from FF11. As well as many abilities in general.
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    I still think it is odd that Black Mages use Fire 1, 2 and 3 vs Fire, Fira and Firaga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    I still think it is odd that Black Mages use Fire 1, 2 and 3 vs Fire, Fira and Firaga.
    Just remember though it wasn't Fire/Fira/Firaga until VIII or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Blood Bath -> Blood Weapon(this is what it was called in previous FF games)
    That attack actually has had different names right down through the series ('Drain' is another example.) Besides, 'Blood Sword' is an actual weapon here and not an ability (it's one of the gimmick weapons sold at the Gold Saucer.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Berserk->Warcry (typically a Warrior ability that increases your damage without lowering defense, as opposed to Berserk which does)
    Berserk here does not act anything like Warcry in FFXI where it boosted the attack of all party members (it only affects the player). Here it's just a short term attack boost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Foresight -> Defender (Forsight in 1.0 was what Keen Flurry is now, parry rate. Defender is a classic WAR ability in FF games which reduces damage)
    Foresight is a MRD ability and not a WAR Job ability. Semnatics I guess but still, your arguement that Defender is a 'classic' ability name just doesn't hold water I'm afraid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Second Wind -> Chakra (In every FF game MNK's self cure is Chakra.
    Again, Second Wind is actually a class ability for PGL and not a MNK Job ability. So it makes perfect sense that it has a different name.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    It's like class abilities were named by developers who never picked up an FF game before. Please rename these abilities!
    This is actually a very disrespectful and insulting thing to say, as the development team actually are admitted FF fans (Yoshi-P has stated in the past that his favourite FF games are FFIII and FFVII, and Michael Christopher Koji-Fox, the game's head translator, localization lead and also one of the world lore creators played FFXI from it's Japanese launch which actually led to him joining SE. Also a lot of these abilities are reused from FFXIV version 1.0, development for which was originally headed by Hiromichi Tanaka, the producer of FFXI and FFIII, who had a lot of experience with previous FF games. )

    Trust me, the development team knows what it is doing. Just because they didn't use a few silly cliches from the more recent FF games like the stupid 'ra'/'ga' spell naming system does not mean "they never picked up a FF game before".
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 04-16-2015 at 06:36 PM.

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    This is not FFXI-2.

    Before ranting about Devs not knowing about FF-Series, maybe play some games prior to XI and see that you're full of crap.

    I'm not saying that the differing names throughout the series can be confusing, but the things you mention hold no value and are biased of one game of the series, not the series as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    A lot of the names come from FF11. As well as many abilities in general.
    None of those come from 11. Only one was even in 11 (berserk), and that one has been in pretty much every main FF except 1 and 3.

    That being said the names are fine. Anyone "who's picked up a FF game before" would know the series changes naming conventions quite frequently.
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    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Just remember though it wasn't Fire/Fira/Firaga until VIII or something.
    Funnily enough, that's my first FF game and my favorite lol
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    No, almost all combination of 'name -> what it does' come from FXI in his listing.
    Most times where he states "come from classic title" its from XI and actually have other usage in "classic" titles from what he describes.

    Disclaimer: I didn't play XI but that's the Info of the many FF-pedias out there.
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