SICK OF THE LAG FEST

[Echelon]

This is just a thought- but depending on how much Square changed, your ISP could be considering FFXIV as Peer to Peer again. This happened I think about half a year ago where certain ISPs would blatantly throttle FFXIV traffic in peak hours due to them thinking it was P2P. Square got around to the problem eventually and got it fixed, but now with recent changes, things could have reverted back. I've had some lag the past few days but there were several tornado warnings- whether or not the lag was due to that or not I do not know. If it's a P2P problem though (again) the only way around the packet loss is through a VPN.

you mean like WTFast....yes I noticed a big difference when I tried that..*sigh* I personally don't like relying on something else other than my net for a stable connection but until the issue is fixed I don't have much of a choice If I want to continue MT or OT Final Coil.

[anime]

the game is unplayable for me as well as of today!

every mob, healthbar update stops for 10 seconds... And then comes the hope that I survived it all or died once again from mobs that I shouldn't even die from.
I wonder if the lag could also be caused by the increased gilspam that is also still unresolved.

[Miah_G]

Just going to say that I've been experiencing the same sort of things being described in here since 4/14/2015.

While I haven't noticed creatures jumping all over the place, I do see it happen with other players. I had a friend of mine run in a straight line without stopping, however I saw their character run, then suddenly stop, then zip ahead to where they should be. Its also pretty obvious when I'm watching groups of players move from FATE to FATE or commute from one play to the next in any area; the whole group will suddenly stop at the same time, then all suddenly zip ahead at the same time.

Before 4/14/15, I had absolutely no issue with lag.

EDIT:
I feel I should add that I play on PS4 and nothing with my ISP has changed.

[Miah_G]

Did some more digging around using tracert and it looks like I go through atlas.cogentco.com a number of times on my way to the NA data center, and that's where my packet loss starts.

I don't know when this change happened or why, but as I said before; I just started having issues starting after this last maintenance.

Hopefully something can be done about this. I feel that this issue is out of my control at the moment and its really effecting my enjoyment of the game in a negative way.

[Raist]

Did some more digging around using tracert and it looks like I go through atlas.cogentco.com a number of times on my way to the NA data center, and that's where my packet loss starts.

I don't know when this change happened or why, but as I said before; I just started having issues starting after this last maintenance.

Hopefully something can be done about this. I feel that this issue is out of my control at the moment and its really effecting my enjoyment of the game in a negative way.

The routing is determined by your ISP's policies and those of the routing partner with whom they've connected you. Extremely unlikely anything SE did (not really much the could do to affect those routing decisions) It's pretty much all based on whatever analytics and/or routing protocol your ISP has implemented.

You need to get your ISP's Tier3 team involved to conduct a proper investigation and then request appropriate escalation if needed to address the problem. Alternatively, you could try some VPN/Proxy services to try routing you through different regions to see if you can find a more stable path.

[Jonny_Tapas]

I'm glad to finally see these lag topics be moved from Technical Support to Being Addressed; But what's disheartening is to see maintenance and hot-fixes, with no mention of lag or resolve.

The game has been in a horrible state ever since FCOB went to Duty Finder. Having access to the games most difficult content is in-fact worthless if the game/instance is unplayable. The issue mutes patch 2.56. What is echo or Duty Finder if you can't play. I hope to see SE tackle this issue with the up-most urgency.

[Khemorex]

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 12 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.146.224.1
3 8 ms 13 ms 8 ms 194.107.134.181
4 8 ms 7 ms 9 ms 194.107.134.50
5 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms 213-153-33-109.dyn.salzburg-online.at [213.153.33.109]
6 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms xe-8-1-0.bar2.Vienna.Level3.net [212.73.202.181]
7 110 ms 109 ms 110 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]
8 113 ms 110 ms 109 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]
9 112 ms 110 ms 111 ms ORMUCO-COMM.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.59.178.74]
10 123 ms 125 ms 123 ms 192.34.76.10
11 137 ms 129 ms 126 ms 199.91.189.242
12 127 ms 126 ms 129 ms 199.91.189.45


#2

Tracing route to 199.91.189.45 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.146.224.1
3 9 ms 12 ms 7 ms 194.107.134.181
4 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 194.107.134.50
5 10 ms 10 ms 8 ms 213-153-33-109.dyn.salzburg-online.at [213.153.33.109]
6 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms xe-8-1-0.bar2.Vienna.Level3.net [212.73.202.181]
7 283 ms 209 ms 238 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]
8 114 ms 116 ms 109 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]
9 110 ms 109 ms 110 ms ORMUCO-COMM.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.59.178.74]
10 126 ms 141 ms 128 ms 192.34.76.10
11 131 ms 129 ms 128 ms 199.91.189.242
12 132 ms 131 ms 132 ms 199.91.189.45

#3

1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 7 ms 6 ms 10.146.224.1
3 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms 194.107.134.181
4 9 ms 8 ms 7 ms 194.107.134.50
5 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms 213-153-33-109.dyn.salzburg-online.at [213.153.33.109]
6 17 ms 13 ms 13 ms xe-8-1-0.bar2.Vienna.Level3.net [212.73.202.181]
7 264 ms 219 ms 216 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]
8 287 ms 239 ms 184 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]
9 110 ms 110 ms 110 ms ORMUCO-COMM.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.59.178.74]
10 133 ms 128 ms 129 ms 192.34.76.10
11 132 ms 132 ms 130 ms 199.91.189.242
12 135 ms 132 ms 133 ms 199.91.189.45


My Problem is i see people stopping , then they get speed upped x2 and rush from one place to another , all the time.
My ISP tells me they cant do anything about it , i gues ill try to get to higher up tech XD

another edit , i didnt have any kind of the lags i described in duty ex roulete today , instead i had them only in Gold Saucer.

[Khemorex]

ok so i did another tracert to the montreal node :

Tracing route to ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 6 ms 8 ms 10.146.224.1
3 8 ms 7 ms 9 ms 194.107.134.181
4 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms 194.107.134.50
5 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms 213-153-33-109.dyn.salzburg-online.at [213.153.33.109]
6 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms xe-8-1-0.bar2.Vienna.Level3.net [212.73.202.181]
7 17 ms 11 ms 12 ms ae-0-11.bar1.Vienna1.Level3.net [4.69.153.149]
8 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms ae-12-12.ebr3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.153.146]
9 25 ms 25 ms 23 ms ae-63-63.csw1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.2]
10 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms ae-62-62.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.17]
11 40 ms 36 ms 33 ms ae-23-23.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.148.193]
12 35 ms 35 ms 34 ms vlan103.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.143.94]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 103 ms 101 ms 101 ms ae-1-11.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.204.198]
15 308 ms 210 ms 222 ms ae-5-5.car1.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.5]
16 123 ms 232 ms 242 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]


#2

Tracing route to ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 6 ms 7 ms 10.146.224.1
3 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms 194.107.134.181
4 7 ms 8 ms 9 ms 194.107.134.50
5 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms 213-153-33-109.dyn.salzburg-online.at [213.153.33.109]
6 12 ms 12 ms 14 ms xe-8-1-0.bar2.Vienna.Level3.net [212.73.202.181]
7 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms ae-0-11.bar1.Vienna1.Level3.net [4.69.153.149]
8 27 ms 24 ms 25 ms ae-12-12.ebr3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.153.146]
9 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms ae-63-63.csw1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.2]
10 25 ms 27 ms 25 ms ae-62-62.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.17]
11 33 ms 34 ms 36 ms ae-23-23.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.148.193]
12 34 ms 35 ms 33 ms vlan103.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.143.94]
13 * * 106 ms ae-43-43.ebr3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.137.74]
14 103 ms 102 ms 104 ms ae-1-11.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.204.198]
15 206 ms 110 ms 338 ms ae-5-5.car1.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.5]
16 110 ms 112 ms 110 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]

#3

Tracing route to ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms 10.146.224.1
3 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 194.107.134.181
4 9 ms 8 ms 7 ms 194.107.134.50
5 9 ms 7 ms 8 ms 213-153-33-109.dyn.salzburg-online.at [213.153.33.109]
6 14 ms 14 ms 22 ms xe-8-1-0.bar2.Vienna.Level3.net [212.73.202.181]
7 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms ae-0-11.bar1.Vienna1.Level3.net [4.69.153.149]
8 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms ae-12-12.ebr3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.153.146]
9 23 ms 25 ms 23 ms ae-63-63.csw1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.2]
10 25 ms 27 ms 24 ms ae-62-62.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.17]
11 33 ms 35 ms 34 ms ae-23-23.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.148.193]
12 33 ms 36 ms 34 ms vlan103.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.143.94]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * 108 ms 102 ms ae-1-11.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.204.198]
15 110 ms 109 ms 110 ms ae-5-5.car1.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.5]
16 110 ms 111 ms 108 ms ae-11-11.car2.Montreal2.Level3.net [4.69.141.1]

seems like the ae-43-43.ebr3.NewYork1.Level3.net has some problems and then it switches to the ebr4.

im not sure if there is a workaround for that node tho?

well i went to 2 dungeons and i magically had no lags at all , and i didnt do anything fyi.

[Demyx]

I've never had lag with my system and I've just had to use my task manager to end task my client because I was stuck on the loading screen to Camp Dagonhead in Corethas for 10 minutes. I could still type but could not do anything else after having lag spikes in the area 15 minutes previously. What the hell is going on?

[Gumbercules]

had to start using WTFast recently too ATT has terrible routing for this game. Had issues at start then they stopped, then about two months ago started again and i just went with the VPN option XD

edit: about a week ago VPN was down for maint. and i did play it normal and was fine so maybe its been resolved by now.