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  1. #71
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    For the folks saying that people will level a tank, spam T4, and then never touch it again: while I'm sure that does happen, I'm ALSO pretty sure there are a lot of folks that reach 50 and realize that tanking isn't as bad as they thought it was. These people will continue to tank from time to time in order to get the fast roulette queues. This puts more tanks into the dungeons, which was exactly what SE was hoping for.
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  2. #72
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    IMO in SE speculation, they give mount achievement to boost tanker to do some dungeon/roulette. But since T4 is spam-able, well I don't know.
    thats what they intended but didnt work out the way they were hoping.. still should have other mounts available to all jobs/classes even if its along the lines of a quest simlar to healers unicorn
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  3. #73
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Yoshi-P touched on this question very briefly during the Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XX. Just like paladin and warrior, we’re planning on adding a mount for dark knight.

    Please look forward to what type of mount it will be!
    No offense Grekumah, but of DRK is given a mount in the same manner as WHM gets the Unicorn, there are gonna be some annoyed PLD/WAR out there since to get 'our' mount we have to hit that tankless achievement by running end-game content as tanks. If the idea was to incentivize players to play tanks, it failed. Since all it did was encourage players to grind the easiest end-game content that qualified for the achievement as a tank and then never pick up a shield or axe again.

    So, if you guys are going to hand out mounts to DRK like candy, kindly remember the players who've been tanking since the start - it is truly a tankless (thankless) job. Either that or as was suggested a few posts back;
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Running Coils and Extreme primals isn't helping the need for tanks. Now make it 200 dungeons of any level and SE would have done it right.
    ...make the achievement running 200 dungeons. Since people will understandably balk at 200 low level dungeons runs earning a mount, you could make it 200 level 50+ dungeons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    how come just tank classes get thier own mounts?? should implement unique mount for every class not just tanks ._.
    White Mage's Unicorn is glaring at you.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 04-16-2015 at 12:37 AM.

  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    ...make the achievement running 200 dungeons. Since people will understandably balk at 200 low level dungeons runs earning a mount, you could make it 200 level 50+ dungeons.
    It is EXACTLY because people balk at doing low level dungeons that it would be a good idea to make this the requirement. The goal of grinding in order to obtain your mount is to increase the number of people participating in content as a high-demand job - it's not just grinding for the sake of grinding.

    If people hate low level dungeons, and it's causing the people who NEED those low-level dungeons to have trouble finding parties, that's when you need to provide incentive to get people to do them. Remember, the goal of the mount is not to force people into a grind, but rather to force people to do content they might not ordinarily do otherwise where their job is in high demand.

    When SE added the Tank mounts, there was a need for more tanks in Coils and Ex Primals. If there is now a greater need for tanks in low-level instances, it might be time to change the requirements to channel tanks there (or provide some other incentive that will get the tanks into the low-level dungeons).
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  5. #75
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    The fact they are adding a new tank class will serve to make the DFs churning for dungeons lvl30+ (and lower ones too if/when a tank queues low level roulette) for a time; even now I'm still surprised by the amount of Ninjas I see leveling in Coerthas.

    This week I've seen a lot more PLDs leveling too, its too small of a sample size to say with certainty, but I'd guess people are hyped for pld's new combo and wanna be ready for it.

    And there's the Adventurer in Need incentive that's already in place.

    The mount achievement started out as a bit of a challenge to get, t4 grinding aside. I got my mount without light farming t4, (mostly DFing garuda/ifrit ex) so I'm pleased and feel like it's a real achievement and at the same time I helped a lot of first timers (dozens, hundreds[?]) get their first clear. I don't think it should be changed.

    I think the t4 grinding for the mount is the exception, not the rule. It's still working as intended.
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 04-16-2015 at 07:27 AM.

  6. #76
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    LOL it took me pretty much all of 2.0 to get my war lion.

    But on to the topic of dark knight mount probably a Shadow Drake.
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  7. #77
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    I don't care what the mount is, but if it comes with the title "The Meat Sword" you won't see me playing another job until I have it.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    When SE added the Tank mounts, there was a need for more tanks in Coils and Ex Primals. If there is now a greater need for tanks in low-level instances, it might be time to change the requirements to channel tanks there (or provide some other incentive that will get the tanks into the low-level dungeons).
    When they added the mounts, the general consensus was that we need more tanks - period. There was as much need in low level dungeons, and at the time it was introduced, the people running end-game content already had statics including tanks. Se chose the wrong target group and ultimately it didn't reall help with the tank shortage, so much so that they halved the number of tanks required in 24-man alliance contect in response. I'd love for it to be 200 dungeons regardless of level,I'm just aware that there would be a chorus of protestifthey did so.
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  9. #79
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    Cariborne Aasami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firepower View Post
    This would be a good place to put Sleipnir, I know its in game already but as cash shop only, this would allow people who didn't want to spend money on the thing still be able to get it.
    That would defeat the purpose of buying it then.

    On that note, I suspect we'll get some type of Behemoth mount. Probably an Armoured one as we already have one form of Behemoth mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    White Mage's Unicorn is glaring at you.
    u mean the mount obtainable at level 30?? which can easily be obtained by fate grinding?? yeah thats gonna encourage more people to play healers at end game stuff :P
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