Did SE give up on making houses/plots re-sellable?

[GenJoe]

No more of this 1st ward, 2nd ward, 12th ward, choose your ward destination, choose your subdivision teleport, etc nonsense.

If you don't have a private or fc home in a ward/subdvision, you can't access that area, tough bananas.

I don't see what problem that would solve..

Will it relieve the server stress? Who goes to wards they don't have a personal/fc house in? People rarely ever go to other wards anyway, except to visit a friend and that's only on a rare occasion, you'd be hard pressed to find 1 extra person in a ward at any given time that does not belong there.


Second part, if that was the case, people would NOT put their personal homes in the same ward as their FC house. Specifically BECAUSE access is limited, they would probably opt to have a personal house in a different city state than the fc housing just to gain access to 2 different housing districts..
i.e. I have a personal house in Goblet and FC house in Lavender, I chose it this way because if I wanted to use the MB, I can teleport between the two cities with ease and both of the houses have a MB right outside.

reselling is terrible and shouldn't be implemented.

What's wrong with reselling? If anything, that will help alleviate a lot of the problems we have with housing crisis. No plots? Pay extra and you shall have it..

Just like any other item on MB, if demand exceeds supply, price of the item will be inflated.. But it would be its just price. Just because you bought the house directly from the system (from a bank foreclosure auction), does not mean that's what the house is valued at. You bought it cheap.

[Zelas]

reselling is terrible and shouldn't be implemented.

Reselling is happening, whether it's implemented or not. I'd rather they implement something legitimate and secure, than let the current makeshift reselling "system" continue as it is right now, to be honest...

[Xenosan]

I don't see what problem that would solve..

Will it relieve the server stress? Who goes to wards they don't have a personal/fc house in? People rarely ever go to other wards anyway, except to visit a friend and that's only on a rare occasion, you'd be hard pressed to find 1 extra person in a ward at any given time that does not belong there.

Exactly. The merit of instanced zones is data can be archived and stored offline when not in use, and thus server dedication scales/fluctuates in relation to active subscriptions. In it's current form, someone can buy a house then unsubscribe.. This is a very big concern for SE because now they are storing not just character data, but shared server-encumbering data [that remains online] (also a $$$ expense) and not seeing any $$$ coming from it.

With the current model it will always be risky for SE to expand Housing areas because the server-space housing data consumes does not fluctuate with the number of active subscriptions. In it's current form, Housing will always be behind the demand because it's not cost efficient to do otherwise.

[GenJoe]

Oh you mean instance the wards first, then impose the restrictions.. Yeah, that could help with server load, but I don't know if SE's willing to go back to that, by that design, they might as well just get rid of the wards altogether and make each individual houses instanced, then have visitation privileges to friends and fc members.. like Wildstar, but it's a little late for that kind of change I think.

[SendohJin]

What's wrong with reselling? If anything, that will help alleviate a lot of the problems we have with housing crisis. No plots? Pay extra and you shall have it..

Just like any other item on MB, if demand exceeds supply, price of the item will be inflated.. But it would be its just price. Just because you bought the house directly from the system (from a bank foreclosure auction), does not mean that's what the house is valued at. You bought it cheap.

scalping/squatting. it's not like the MB at all because the supply for plots is very publicly finite. on the MB you can buy out rarer items like Grade 4 Materia or rare minions but other players can create more supply by spirit-bonding and doing treasure maps or whatever methods there are to acquire those items. you can't simply buy out everything at 300k and relist at 500k, there's huge risk someone will procure more of the same item and undercut you.

once land can be easily re-sold between players, people with no interest in housing will just buy them up so they can turn around and resell it for pure profit.

Reselling is happening, whether it's implemented or not. I'd rather they implement something legitimate and secure, than let the current makeshift reselling "system" continue as it is right now, to be honest...

that's why my suggestion is what it is. we need a system but we need one where players can't get gil easily from selling plots. the gil being taken out of the system every time an actual plot is bought from the system is good for the game economy.

[GenJoe]

once land can be easily re-sold between players, people with no interest in housing will just buy them up so they can turn around and resell it for pure profit.

What's wrong with that??

[MomomiMomi]

scalping/squatting. it's not like the MB at all because the supply for plots is very publicly finite. on the MB you can buy out rarer items like Grade 4 Materia or rare minions but other players can create more supply by spirit-bonding and doing treasure maps or whatever methods there are to acquire those items. you can't simply buy out everything at 300k and relist at 500k, there's huge risk someone will procure more of the same item and undercut you.

Already happens, and an official selling system could just give a price decided by the game that is always a loss for the seller compared to the base price, most likely through a very high tax. That way someone who no longer wants a house for whatever reason can at least get something back, and there's the obvious benefit of more selling happening so that people who want houses can finally get one.

[MistyMew]

We need a way to resell, I dont want credits , I would want my gil back! O.o lol

We should be allowed imo, at the very least, to resell to SE themselves for exactly what we paid...anything less is not good enough, we take a hit enough ingame already.

[Intaki]

We need a way to resell, I dont want credits , I would want my gil back! O.o lol

Why do you want your gil back? Did the house not provide value? If so, why did you buy it?

[SendohJin]

What's wrong with that??

everything? nothing would drive people to buy gil faster.

Already happens, and an official selling system could just give a price decided by the game that is always a loss for the seller compared to the base price, most likely through a very high tax.

yes, it already happens but at very low quantities and there's no way your suggestion would hold. players will just have side deals outside the system so that it's not always a loss for the seller. it's not different then what we have now.

That way someone who no longer wants a house for whatever reason can at least get something back, and there's the obvious benefit of more selling happening so that people who want houses can finally get one.

the solution to housing shortage is to create new wards, expand current wards and relinquish unused plots. players can not be trusted to "at least get something back". SE knows this, that's why there are so many restrictions on direct gil transfer between players.