Give PLD In-Combat Raise? (3.0?)

[Xenosan]

For whatever reason here we (Westerners) associate PLD with divine magic and SE has recognized that and given us CNJ as a cross class. But I don't think it's meant to be something defining the job to any extent. its just a protect/stoneskin for solo content or when SCH only groups.

Where in the lore is PLD affluent in WHM? From what I remember of the job quests Paladins are an Order of Knights called the Sultansworn with old, longstanding traditions. They're not necessarily pious are they? The lvl 30 quest has us fight the undead, so there's that at least.

In all though I'm pretty skeptical of SE implementing additional magic use for PLD, enough MP goes into stance dancing and flash. MNK would be such an awesome crossclass instead but that'd probably be OP. Hell bard or dragoon i'd take that too.

Since the new jobs don't have a base class, I'm guessing SE won't play musical chairs with cross class skills like they did when Arcanist dropped, pity.

[VargasVermillion]

Well PLD is just called knight for jp, and it is just knight really. Paladin is just there to make it sound fancy. More magic or not PLD still needs something to separate it from the other tanks as atm it just has the bare essentials to count as a tank and no mechanic of it's own, which is something almost all the classes have.
Stance dancing tank would be the most obvious choice but it would need at least an ability that swaps oaths instantly among other oath exclusive effects or abilities based on what stance you are in or circumstance.

[HeavensSword]

For whatever reason here we (Westerners) associate PLD with divine magic and SE has recognized that and given us CNJ as a cross class. But I don't think it's meant to be something defining the job to any extent. its just a protect/stoneskin for solo content or when SCH only groups.

Where in the lore is PLD affluent in WHM? From what I remember of the job quests Paladins are an Order of Knights called the Sultansworn with old, longstanding traditions. They're not necessarily pious are they? The lvl 30 quest has us fight the undead, so there's that at least. ...

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There is a pretty good history of Paladins raising and curing in other Final fantasy games, particularly it's predecessor in FFXI.

You are right... the only CNJ spell PLd should be making use of IS stoneskin.. but if your seriously only using it on yourself, your missing the point.

You HAVE two other spells. They aren't particularly effective. The suggestion is to make the spell you have access too effective. And your argueing, "Nope... keep it gimp, so I can do less".

LOL... what.. 1-2-3 combo is all the challenge you want?

Examples of Paladins Raising and Curing and other White Magey stuff -

Final Fantasy 1 *(Knight) - Cure, Protect, Blink, Cura
Final Fantasy III (Knight/Dark Knight) - Cure, Cura
Final Fantasy IV (Cecil)- Cure, Protect, Cura, Shell, Esuna, Raise
Final Fantasty IX (Beatrix)- Cure, Cura, Life, Full Life, Esuna, Reflect, Holy
Final Fantasy XI (Paladin) - Cure 1-4, Protect/Shell, Raise, Holy

I could go on with the random other games... but Cure and Raise go with Paladin... the fact that they ain't being utilized well in the game is something that should be corrected.

Paladin's have been associated with healing/holy magic throughout the series...