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    9 is max number, same as 0 is min number, then we have twice the same number (in a row)...
    If you slightly understand RNG programming, you wouldnt have said that!

    Edit: that did not happen once, and not only at our server!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    9 is max number, same as 0 is min number, then we have twice the same number (in a row)...
    If you slightly understand RNG programming, you wouldnt have said that!

    Edit: that did not happen once, and not only at our server!
    I don't understand RNG programming, no, but why would it be unusual for 4 random numbers to be like that?
    So what if one's the max and one's the minimum? Statistically that can STILL happen no matter what. There are 10 possibilities for each slot, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    I don't understand RNG programming, no, but why would it be unusual for 4 random numbers to be like that?
    Have a look at this, its well explained:
    http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experim...tatistics.html

    These digits were supposed to be random, yet in the first thousand, the first dozen for that matter, we found a pattern as striking as “999999”. What's the probability of that happening? Just the number of possible numbers of d digits which contain one or more sequences of p or more consecutive nines:

    In the original examination of the data, we were really asking “What is the probability we'll find some striking sequence of six digits in a random 1000 digit number?”. We can't precisely quantify that without defining what “striking” means to the observer, but it is clearly quite high. Consider that I could have made the case just as strongly for “000000”, “777777” or any other six-digit repeat. That alone reduces the probability of occurrence by chance to one in ten. Or, perhaps I might have pointed out a run of digits like “123456”, “012345”, “987654”, and so on; or the first five or six digits of a mathematical constant such as Pi, e, or the square root of two; regular patterns like “101010”, “123321”, or a multitude of others; or maybe my telephone or license plate number, or the subject's! It is, in fact, very likely you'll find some pattern you consider striking in a random 1000-digit number.
    At the outset, the results diverged substantially from chance, as is frequently the case for small sample sizes. But as the number of experiments increased, the results converged toward the chance expectation, ending up in a decreasing magnitude random walk around it. This is precisely what is expected from probability theory, and hence we conclude no “999999 effect” exists.
    The Problem we have is this:
    For the RNG we have a very high sample size because we can assume that every player, every system ingame is using the same RNG and not having one of their own!
    But on the other hand for each player we have a very small sample size because one player does not try 100000 runs for a single drop... do you get the problem?
    Lottery as example it is 4 digits, but how is it generated? We can highly assume it just normally generates and takes the first 4 "flips"... so it just takes the numbers he is getting in a row...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    9 is max number, same as 0 is min number, then we have twice the same number (in a row)...
    If you slightly understand RNG programming, you wouldnt have said that!

    Edit: that did not happen once, and not only at our server!
    I'm not entirely sure you understand how RNG is supposed to work if you think there's anything strange about that. Its not like you're rolling 2 6-sided dice which would cause there to be an uneven distribution of chances for each number. If its working properly any number from 1-9 will be exactly as likely to appear, and each number have no effect whatsoever on the chance of the next one. In which case there's no such thing as a weird number result on the cactpot.

    Granted I'm not a programmer, but if it was programmed so that there was a lower chance of it hitting the far end numbers, then the programming they used for RNG would be flawed, as its intended to be a system where every number has equal probability.
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