New Jobs Gated Behind Completion of 2.0 Story?

[Donarudo]

Things.

You know I left this forum last night on a good note by thanking you for our conversation. So let me get something straight. You have nearly played this game for a month correct? Everybody who has tried to have some sort of dialogue with you has been systematically slandered by you. Your comments are abrasive and you insight anger. Your tone if there is such a thing in text is borderline toxic at best. People have tried to reason with you and you still fight back. So hear it is...your the new guy a lot of us have been playing this game near 2+ years. A lot of us have different opinions then you do. I have given you facts others have given you facts and we have also given you opinions.

Instead you trash them and tell them how they are wrong. So there is a trend and the trend is your the one wrong not us. We have tried to convey to you through suggestions what we think of the game and what it has to offer. So say what you would like about me after this post I really don't care. In the end you will either still play this game or leave and find something better. People like you are more the problem then you are the solution. Instead of being so abrasive why can't you see things from other peoples points of views instead of saying their statements are complete BS. They call conversations like this a debate for a reason.

For you to talk down to everybody when you are the new person is just a selfish act and shows your inability to accept that others have a different view then you. I will state one more time the Tutorial tool in this game is bar none one of the better tutorials. I played EQ since its inception and I can assure you we didn't have a tutorial when it first launched we were tossed into the game and and told to have a great day. Also Eve Online until recently had one of the worst Tutorials a game had to offer....that is right they didn't have one. So take our advice and differences for whats its worth, but at least have the audacity to admit when you are clearly wrong. Thanks have a good day, and I hope you find what it is you are looking for.

[Jandor]

Also Eve Online until recently had one of the worst Tutorials a game had to offer....that is right they didn't have one.

Eve Online has always had tutorials, for the last half a decade at least. Fair enough up until recently they were admittedly terrible, but they've had at least something for quite a while now.

[Donarudo]

Eve Online has always had tutorials, for the last half a decade at least. Fair enough up until recently they were admittedly terrible, but they've had at least something for quite a while now.

Appreciate the correction. I started Eve in 2007 as I recall the only thing they did for us back then was send us out to mine a asteroid and fight a ship....terrible yes......again thanks for the correction.

[Jandor]

Appreciate the correction. I started Eve in 2007 as I recall the only thing they did for us back then was send us out to mine a asteroid and fight a ship....terrible yes......again thanks for the correction.

It's changed again recently, but when I first started playing properly they had several tutorial agents that would walk you through aspects of the game, skilling up to destroyer, making some ammo, transporting goods, etc. as well as Aura the ships computer slapping annoying information panels on everything.
Not great, way to much reading and assumed knowledge, but not the worst tutorials in existence.

I believe it's been replaced with an 'opportunities' system that sounds slightly more fitting for a sandbox.

[Donarudo]

It's changed again recently, but when I first started playing properly they had several tutorial agents that would walk you through aspects of the game, skilling up to destroyer, making some ammo, transporting goods, etc. as well as Aura the ships computer slapping annoying information panels on everything.
Not great, way to much reading and assumed knowledge, but not the worst tutorials in existence.

I believe it's been replaced with an 'opportunities' system that sounds slightly more fitting for a sandbox.

That sounds like they have at least attempted to close that gap for new people playing that game....I remember being so confused when I started playing Eve. Thankfully I got into a decent Corp. and they pointed me in the right direction...incidentally they pointed me to 0.0 space and I never looked back after that...

[Jandor]

That sounds like they have at least attempted to close that gap for new people playing that game....I remember being so confused when I started playing Eve. Thankfully I got into a decent Corp. and they pointed me in the right direction...incidentally they pointed me to 0.0 space and I never looked back after that...

Null is old news. Come join me in Wormhole space, if you contract me your stuff I can get it hauled in for you .

lol, that wouldn't work even if I wanted it to. Skill queues online for me at the moment, not sure if I'll ever go back. Fun per hour is a lot higher in FFXIV, I do miss the bonds that a galaxy full of competition forces you to forge though.