New Jobs Gated Behind Completion of 2.0 Story?

[Perogwin]

Let me add my voice to the growing number that thinks this is a bad idea (not that they will listen but it is worth a try).

I had envisioned the following:

In order to access the 3 new jobs you needed to have a character who already possessed at least 1 job stone and had at least gotten through the story to the point of being part of a Grand Company.

In Cortheas Central Highlands I would have placed the Machinist Trainer at Dragonhead, the Astrologian trainer at the Observatory, and the Dark Night Trainer either in the house on the hill in Skyfire or at worst Whitebrim.

This would have made perfect sense to me.

I wanted to do the Machinist on an alt and run the rest of the original story from 20(level you join the GCs) to the end, not have to do the entire original story then only get to see snippets of it on the new class.

I know they won't change it, and though I really love the game, I hope this decision blows up in their face.

[Tyrial]

I wanted to do the Machinist on an alt and run the rest of the original story from 20(level you join the GCs) to the end, not have to do the entire original story then only get to see snippets of it on the new class.

I know they won't change it, and though I really love the game, I hope this decision blows up in their face.

Simple solution:

Uncheck the option to skip previously viewed cutscenes. Go do the story dungeons again and/or watch stuff in your inn room on your desired class.

[Zfz]

(1) Because the game is not designed with alt characters in mind. You can have alts. But the game wasn't designed for it. Therefore any and all arguments using alts are moot.

(2) The game is designed with a heavy emphasis on story. It doesn't really care about the market that would throw the game away for being forced to do the story. It wants to attract players who enjoy the story. So any and all arguments saying you don't want to do the story is moot.

So anyone in the target market would finish the main story anyway. So the whole argument is moot.

[Callinon]

New to the mmo genre, I take it? Other MMOs have done this in the past. And required a lot more then completing some story quests.

Uh no. I've been playing MMOs since they were text-based and called MUDs; nearly 20 years.

But ok, would you please name for me an MMO that required COMPLETION of the previous expansion's content before allowing access to a new expansion's classes? I like to learn things.

[Alberel]

Uh no. I've been playing MMOs since they were text-based and called MUDs; nearly 20 years.

But ok, would you please name for me an MMO that required COMPLETION of the previous expansion's content before allowing access to a new expansion's classes? I like to learn things.

World of Warcraft's death knight and Star Wars Galaxies jedi classes were both gated behind very long processes. They weren't gated by story but then very few MMO even have a story the way FFXIV does. They were gated behind long grinds for a new player though. I started WoW in Wrath of the Lich King and had to level a warlock to 55 before I could play a death knight... I wasn't complaining about it at all; it made the class feel special by requiring a time investment just to access it.

Most of you complaining about this are doing it on behalf of potential new players. You don't actually have a clue how new players will feel about having to unlock these jobs because you aren't going to be in that position.

[Mirakumi]

People who are interested in the game, would be scouting the game out now. I mean if someone really was looking at the game for x class they would be seeking information on how to do it. They wouldn't be waiting until expansion hits to discover the gated issue. There is a week gap if you pre-order the game "I believe," of early access that would be giving that player enough time to push to that level...

The Storyline does not even force you to do Extreme Primals. Coil. Or anything that is a major issue. The only thing I see a problem is Titan hard, but that shouldn't be a roadblock for long with echo.

If new player doesn't like any of the classes now - chances are they won't like any of the classes in the expansion. If you get into it, A Machinest is pretty much a SMNer with a gun. At least how it looks to me.

[Zfz]

The Storyline does not even force you to do Extreme Primals. Coil. Or anything that is a major issue. The only thing I see a problem is Titan hard, but that shouldn't be a roadblock for long with echo.

Technically, the Relic is not required. It is a side quest. So you don't even need to do any of the hard modes.

[Bluevann]

People who are interested in the game, would be scouting the game out now.

Most of new players (including my friend, who I have mentioned seveal times in this thread) have pre-ordered the bundle. They're not going to get it till June.

[Viridiana]

Technically, the Relic is not required. It is a side quest. So you don't even need to do any of the hard modes.

The hard modes were added into the main scenario recently. Besides, the relic is a short diversion for an i90 weapon that can last you through the MSQ.

[Perogwin]

Simple solution:

Uncheck the option to skip previously viewed cutscenes. Go do the story dungeons again and/or watch stuff in your inn room on your desired class.

Those are the Snippets I was talking about - I am talking the non team story content like meeting the Sylphs the first time, or unraveling the mess in the Central Highlands with a different set of power.

Never Mind.....not even sure why I am trying to explain it to people who just don't get my meaning.