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  1. #321
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    SummerSkye's Avatar
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    A'rora Nightfall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mook_Mook View Post
    They have little reason to do anything about it. AS the community has shown to be complacent, which one of you is willing to unsub over this matter? Unless they loose financially its not worth it for them to get a hand on the matter.
    It isn't so much over us unsubscribing, as it is affecting NEW PLAYERS trying out this MMO in a VERY competitive MMO market where other companies have RMT under control. They expect a small spattering of RMT, but like I said earlier, they are getting a giant wall of spam before they even get out of the very first cutscene. News Flash: MMO's that do not have a stream of new players coming in, get stale and stagnant.
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  2. #322
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    Frederick Chronos
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    What can they do though?
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  3. #323
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    Kassiekane's Avatar
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    Elione Skyracer
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    Quote Originally Posted by papichulo123 View Post
    What can they do though?
    There's A LOT of things they can do. People have already given a plethora of decent suggestions. It's a matter of whether or not SE takes additional action.
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  4. #324
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    Natashio's Avatar
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    Natashi Tamaruo
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    Mateus
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    ...A lot of those suggestions are more of a hindrance toward new players then anything else from my point of view.
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  5. #325
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    Well to start...they could do what every other MMO I have ever played has done...

    You know like actually moderate & permaban all players associated with purchasing gil with real currency? I'm relatively new myself & I nearly quit during my trial period over RMT spam. On Brynhilder its like 2-4 tells per minute. How is it that such a well polished, incredible game such as FFXIV can have this poor of moderation?

    I've played WoW, GW1, GW2, Rift, Warhammer Online, Archage, Planetside 2 etc & NONE of them had this poor of moderation. So why is this acceptable in FFXIV?
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    Last edited by Zanarken; 04-10-2015 at 03:30 PM.

  6. #326
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    Tocsin Wolndara
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarken View Post
    Well to start...they could do what every other MMO I have ever played has done...

    You know like actually moderate & permaban all players associated with purchasing gil with real currency? I'm relatively new myself & I nearly quit during my trial period over RMT spam. On Brynhilder its like 2-4 tells as minute. How is it that such a well polished, incredible game such as FFXIV can have this poor of moderation?

    I've played WoW, GW1, GW2, Rift, Warhammer Online, Archage, Planetside 2 etc & NONE of them had this poor of moderation. So why is this acceptable in FFXIV?
    None of them had cross platform with consoles. it has been proven that People on consoles are MUCH more likely to buy optionals (DLC, cash shop, gil) than their PC counterparts, therefore FFXIV has a larger potential market than the other mmos do.
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  7. #327
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    Natashi Tamaruo
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    Quote Originally Posted by tocsin View Post
    None of them had cross platform with consoles. it has been proven that People on consoles are MUCH more likely to buy optionals (DLC, cash shop, gil) than their PC counterparts, therefore FFXIV has a larger potential market than the other mmos do.
    Can you source your statement..or should I rewrite it in a another manner. To say the problem is from one demographic is implying that there are more console players on this game then PC..then why should SE waste resources on improving the graphics and such "DX11" when the major demographic is console. Base on your statement.
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  8. #328
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natashio View Post
    Can you source your statement..or should I rewrite it in a another manner. To say the problem is from one demographic is implying that there are more console players on this game then PC..then why should SE waste resources on improving the graphics and such "DX11" when the major demographic is console. Base on your statement.
    Sure. give me a few minutes.

    edit: Argh, this is proving more difficult than intended. I did the initial research on this in college, where the information came from scientific publications that cannot be accessed by anyone. im trying to find a good mirror now for them.

    In the meantime, im not saying there are more console players than PC players, but I am saying that console players tend to buy more optional content than pc players do. This is due to the fact that the average age of console players is less than that of PC players, and it has also been proven that younger players have less patience for boring tasks that make gil, and therefore are more likely to buy it illegally.
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    Last edited by tocsin; 04-10-2015 at 03:16 PM.

  9. #329
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    Arugo Kusaragi
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by papichulo123 View Post
    What can they do though?
    There are many solutions to the problem..

    Prompt action will deter a lot of the RMT spammers first of all.
    But a specific solution I know works for a lot of the other games is to sell game-time items with secondary currency.. such as Crysta in this game.

    If there's anything of value sold from the mog station, that gives people the ability to buy said item and trade it for in-game currency. SE can print out infinite number of minions/mounts/game-cards etc.. and RMT cannot, they cannot compete under such conditions. The state of cash shop in this game is pitiful at best.. Gifting was only enable what.. 2 weeks ago? There are 3 minions, 1 mount, and the fantasia.. If SE expanded the services offered for Crysta, and allowed players to exchange said items instead of making it exclusive to people who are willing to buy Crysta for real money, they can circumvent involvement of RMT by providing a pathway to $ <-> Crysta <-> Gil.


    I know if that was an option, most players hoarding stupid amounts of gil would simply buy their game time with gil and that would also fix a lot of the wealth disparity in the game also.. and kick start the economy on some servers where it's gone completely stale..

    This is off-topic but on some servers, there are serious economy crashes because rich players have nothing to spend the money on (Masamune iirc) and everything is cheap as hell, so nobody can actually make money either.. If SE could get them to open up their wallets for mog shop items that some other player bought with cash.. That would alleviate a lot of the economic problems that's happened on some servers
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    Last edited by GenJoe; 04-10-2015 at 03:12 PM.

  10. #330
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    Lainey Dragonette
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenJoe View Post
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    X100 this. So many people are gonna hate this but this is pretty much the best way to combat RMT, if ya can't beat 'em join 'em. WoW is already starting to do this.
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