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    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Anyone who says that raid content should only be able to be completed by a few is utterly kidding themselves. Should there be a challenge in raids? Yes. Should you be able to get a clear within the first run? No (Unless you are epic). Should everyone be able to clear it? Yes, ultimately everyone wants to do raids. Some people don't care about the rewards, some do. Some people want the story (because face it, anyway you cut it this is a FINAL FANTASY GAME WHERE STORY MATTERS, and people want that. Locking out a raid to the populace due to making it too much of a memory game, or essentially forcing 3rd party applications (voice chat) is not good development, period. You cannot argue that, anyone who has business/entertainment knowledge would agree, its poor game design to essentially force upon your player to use a 3rd party tool to assist them, and please don't tell me that VC is not required in PUGs, all the clears I got with my character had VC and it made the fight ridiculously easy, because its too much (moves are happening much faster) than what you can type AND react to the moves yourself.


    Now things that only a few people should be able to do? Take down big bad NMs to use examples from FFXI: Pandemonium Warden and Absolute Virtue. Those two bosses in FFXI had 0 zero story element and were near to impossible to beat (the first one took 18+ hours to get to low HP and they still couldn't beat it cause people were getting sick and such), Absolute Virtue was released in the 2nd expansion and continued to be near to impossible to beat for the next 5 years or so. Those are things that only a few should be able to beat, however raids...everyone should be able to beat it, and they should be able to do it without the assistance of 3rd party software.
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    ClaireAbigail's Avatar
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    Valash Xlll
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Those are things that only a few should be able to beat, however raids...everyone should be able to beat it, and they should be able to do it without the assistance of 3rd party software.
    No. I disagree. In life, there are winners and there are losers. Not everyone can win. It's either you get good or you just stay where you are. You CAN down t9 without teamspeak and such. Everything you're saying is just an excuse why you can't down the content. You know what I think the real reason why you can't down it? You don't wanna put the time and effort to do it. Your sense of entitlement betrays you my friend. If you really wanna down t9 and beyond you'll set aside some time to practice and learn it. Real life obligations is not an excuse not to down a content because news flash, a lot of us have full time jobs or schools or families and we were able to still down t13. Really. Be honest with us and tell us the real reason why they can't down the content. Why a lot of people still can't down t5. It's not because they are not good players. Its not because of real life obligations. It's because they don't wanna put any effort into it and hopes that someone will carry them through it.



    About the teamspeak thing, a lot of games and a lot of players would like to speak to you. From LoL to dota 2 to SC II to war craft III to Wow all the way to ffxiv. A lot of people would disagree with what you said.
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    Last edited by ClaireAbigail; 04-10-2015 at 03:32 AM.

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    gamesmart's Avatar
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    Marcus Deston
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Anyone who says that raid content should only be able to be completed by a few is utterly kidding themselves. Should there be a challenge in raids? Yes. Should you be able to get a clear within the first run? No (Unless you are epic). Should everyone be able to clear it? Yes
    Are you new to MMOs or something? The POINT of high tier raids is that only a certain group of people can complete them. I'd agree that they probably shouldn't have locked such an important story arc behind something that maybe 1% of the population can experience, but asking that the hardest raid in the game should be beatable by everyone is laughable. If anyone can do it, how is it hard, and what's the sense of achievement from doing something that everyone else can do? "If everyone is special, no one is."

    And technically anyone can beat it...if they put in the time and effort to learn the fight (and especially their own job). Some don't even try to do the latter.
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