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  1. #181
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    If the game is implemented well enough, it will compel the player to invest in the expansion. Whether that happens bundled for a day one player or a couple weeks/months down the line means little in the larger scheme of things, so long as there is an eventual incentive to keep paying for more content.

    I personally know of no existing player who plans to keep playing AND not get the expansion. That in itself is a huge influx of monetary value to the game.

    SE has proven successful at this marketing campaign, in spades. The idea that someone would reach 2.55 content and 'simply be satisfied' with ARR content in perpetuity, when Heavensward is available, is a bit of a stretch.

    Let people play the game, and if they like it, upgrade. Or get both AAR & HW, which based on typical MMO gaming models means:

    More horizontal growth variety available on day one, just like the average expansion.
    More ease of vertical growth due to expanded variety, with some basic gating to high end content, just like the average expansion.
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 04-07-2015 at 05:41 AM.

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    They can't play the game because they're too busy on the forums complaining that they can't play the game.

    If a player did not like ffxiv for whatever reason, I doubt a job will bring them back (for long). The game is basically the same taste regardless of color.

    I also doubt there is a staggering number of players that will only play because dark knight is a thing now.

    Pretty much arguing over the statistical outliers that are thrown out of any reliable model.
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  3. #183
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    I am quite confident that "ALL" is largely inaccurate.

    Yes, jobs are found in Ishgard.
    Yes, main scenario is found in ishgard.

    Is the Au Ra race locked behind Ishgard?
    Is Coerthas western Highlands locked behind Ishgard?
    Is Dravania locked behind Ishgard?
    Are FC/personal airships locked behind Ishgard?
    Is The Sea of Clouds locked behind Ishgard?
    Is The Churning Mists locked behind Ishgard?
    Is Alexander locked behind Ishgard?

    Just because the majority of they have shared with us is presently perceived as "gated" is a far cry from presuming that everything is.
    Lv51-60 zones are locked behind 2.55 storyline
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  4. #184
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    Everything that prevents FOTMing is good. FOTM is actually a huge problem in WoW for example. These jobs can be made more available at a later point.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    The same way all non-legacy characters are introduced. You're an adventurer arriving to the city from parts unknown in a cart. Anything before that is left to the player's fancy.
    How were legacy characters introduced? That's something I missed out on.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    How were legacy characters introduced? That's something I missed out on.
    Pretty sure they get dropped off from the time-skip outside the gates of whatever city. I haven't really played my legacy character to know, though.
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  7. #187
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    How were legacy characters introduced? That's something I missed out on.
    The were originally introduced in much the same way. Just with different intro cutscenes happening after you arrive in your home city. (they were both travellers from unknown parts, tho)
    It's reasonable to assume that itll be the same, but with another new intro. Perhaps one that will be the same for all characters made in 3.0, rather unique for just Au ra.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Lv51-60 zones are locked behind 2.55 storyline
    Okay, would you mind sharing the link where they detail this for the content I listed, please?

    Up until this point I had thought they only mentioned Ishgard gating, but if you have other specific details, great. Please share.
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  9. #189
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Pretty sure they get dropped off from the time-skip outside the gates of whatever city. I haven't really played my legacy character to know, though.
    FFXIV ARR: Legacy Character Intro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Up until this point I had thought they only mentioned Ishgard gating, but if you have other specific details, great. Please share.
    It is a commonly accepted guess, but just a guess. Basically, since there are no zones that could bring to new areas (or does SE intend to just slice off mountains in Coerthas Central Highlands?) the assumption everyone makes is that once in Ishgard, you will get your flying mount, and with it access the other areas otherwise unreachable. "zoning" probably will not work with flying (unless they plan to patch the sky with those blue trails?), so we're assuming that Heavensturn will be more of one large open world, similar to 1.0, with areas on several levels and accessible through flying.
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