Failing on Calibrated Rose Gold Cog HQ

[ZephyrZ]

A melded AF set and a rng free rotation is all that is required. I know this for a fact because I did exactly that with my other classes.

AF gear is cheap and easily obtainable (I got my first set by farming shards and selling low level items, which can be crafted by spamming SH, GS, AT). In any case, I think it's inappropriate to insinuate that someone is participating in RMT when players can make millions by spirit bonding or even fishing.

I think you missed the point. I already said he would need 1 of three things which is melded AF set / unmeldable artisan set / or melded artisan set.

He doesn't have the unmeldable set, the AF set would cost more in the long run to fully meld so it makes sense that he went with a melded artisan set. Yet since he doesn't know rotations it's obvious that he bought it and regardless of server. You're looking at a minimum 1mil per body piece (4mil total) 1 mil for all accessories + belt and around 1.5 mil per offhand. Add in around 5-10mil for some melds, not even to be fully melded. and You're looking at around 22-27 mil from spirit bonding? Sure bro, sure

Regardless of if he got his gil from spirit bonding or rmt's. He bought his way to the top and i'm glad he can't progress because he shouldn't be able to, he has no idea what he's doing when it comes to crafting and until he chooses to actively try to learn instead of asking for hand outs; he'll be stuck between a rock and hard place. All because he skipped the learning curves that were put in to make sure you progressed at the right pace. I for one am glad to see lots of NQ 4* stuff on the mb, let's me control markets easier and force out anyone that tries to come in.

I can understand the pain of losing the gil, but the game isn't designed to screw you over.. I'm glad you're not giving up on it because crafting will help you make it all back and then some.

Only way I can describe it is.. Unless you come up with one of the most optimized solution, it will give you a hard time because 8 stacks of IQ vs. 9 stacks vs. 10 vs. 11 are all WORLDS apart, so even improving a 11HT rotation to a 12HT rotation is a drastic improvement.

scarebearz' guideline is actually pretty accurate and concise, and that actually applies to all 3-4star crafts as well as the token..

for example 3 star rotation goes PbP RS RS -> Quality touches -> GS -> Byregots -> CS2
4 star goes PbP RS RS -> Quality touches -> GS -> Byregots -> CS2 -> CS2.
token is something like PbP PbP RS RS -> Quality touches -> GS -> Byregots -> CS2

So it's all similar, you basically have to account for 10 extra durability out of 3 star to make 4 stars, and take 10 more out of that to make the token etc..
So if you get enough practice with 3 star crafting (terminus putty, wolfram ingot are cheap to practice on) you should get the feel for it.

I don't even know where to start, let's talk about a 3 star rotations. Should it be 4 steps or 5? If you do 4 steps for progress, you get another quality step. Yet that step is worlds apart because you 10 or 11 stacks is a massive difference? That's wrong, to be more precise it isn't accurate from lack of information.

PbP is a waste of 15 cp in a 3 star rotation simply because that one extra HT step you gain is NOT useful, in fact it is a detriment.

3 star rotation goes PbP RS RS -> Quality touches -> GS -> Byregots -> CS2 @ 11 stacks

if you do NOT use pbp, take out 1 HT, so assume 10 stacks with GS and BB but what you also get is Innovation and the freedom to bait for higher quality condition. The condition aside, the innovation gs bb will end up giving you more quality with 10 stacks than 11 on gs + bb.

Crafting is not hard, all you have to do is put some effort into figuring out what's best and in which order. The fact that people blinding accept rotations in mind boggling to me.

scarebearz is a reputable crafter so i don't think he/she would have posted such a lack luster rotation for 3 star, that rotation doesn't even apply for new 3 star crafters because they wouldn't finish progress and it isn't useful for crafters that are near or already at 4 star craftmanship.

The ONLY situation where 11 stack + GS BB would yield almost the same quality as 10 stack inno GS BB is at 440 control or more and even then, there is still a 100 quality difference which is 99% or 100% for a synth.