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    Well if you go by this interview, then yeah. You can't access Ishgard unless you're done with 2.55 story. But that article VERY clearly states that you do not have to have 2.55 done for the new jobs.

    "The new jobs added in Heavensward are not tied to the main story, so those are accessable as well."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkrist View Post
    Well if you go by this interview, then yeah. You can't access Ishgard unless you're done with 2.55 story. But that article VERY clearly states that you do not have to have 2.55 done for the new jobs.

    "The new jobs added in Heavensward are not tied to the main story, so those are accessable as well."
    That's the original answer preserved for posterity. SE sent them a clarification that states the access to the new job quests are in Ishgard as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
    That's the original answer preserved for posterity. SE sent them a clarification that states the access to the new job quests are in Ishgard as well.
    Now you're arguing in circles and choosing to ignore facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkrist View Post
    Now you're arguing in circles and choosing to ignore facts.
    What facts am I ignoring? You clearly don't understand the purpose of a clarification to an original statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
    What facts am I ignoring? You clearly don't understand the purpose of a clarification to an original statement.
    You seem to be paying sufficient attention to the facts that matter.

    Fact: Ishgard cannot be accessed without clearing Steps of Faith, which has several prerequisites.

    Fact: The new jobs are accessed upon entering Ishgard

    Fact: Owning Heavensward will grant immediate access to Ishgard content. No 'Heavensward Main Questline' is necessary to clear in order to proceed to Ishgard.

    Therefore: 'ARR Main Questline' is a prerequisite to enter Ishgard, and 'Heavensward Main Questline' is not.

    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    A successful MMO is one that brings in a consistent supply of new players, not at the EXPENSE of existing players, but in addition to supporting existing players.
    This is correct, but for the wrong agenda. NEW players. Who have a rite of passage to access exclusive content. Gating is a very important function to keep population spread out and healthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Fact: Ishgard cannot be accessed without clearing Steps of Faith, which has several prerequisites.

    Fact: The new jobs are accessed upon entering Ishgard

    Fact: Owning Heavensward will grant immediate access to Ishgard content. No 'Heavensward Main Questline' is necessary to clear in order to proceed to Ishgard.

    Therefore: 'ARR Main Questline' is a prerequisite to enter Ishgard, and 'Heavensward Main Questline' is not.
    Why are you trying to start an argument over things I never even said? I'm not sure if you are responding to another individual and you just got confused in your quest to score internet points, but I've never challenged any of those facts. In fact, the individual that told me I was ignoring facts, is the one doubting what you pointed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
    Why are you trying to start an argument over things I never even said? I'm not sure if you are responding to another individual and you just got confused in your quest to score internet points, but I've never challenged any of those facts. In fact, the individual that told me I was ignoring facts, is the one doubting what you pointed out.
    Because I am not. I was bulleting the points you were making, supporting your argument. lol.
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    Battle content for Heavensward will be released in the LIVE LftP in April. Let's wait for that before burning SE's offices down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkrist View Post
    Now you're arguing in circles and choosing to ignore facts.
    Haha. These forums.
    Quote Originally Posted by synesthetic View Post
    If we're going to quote the OP's linked article..

    " “We were actually recently deciding what to call these jobs that don’t have a base class, and we’ve decided to call them ‘Extra Jobs.’ Just like when you can switch to different jobs when you’re at level 30, that applies to these as well. As long as any class or job is at level 30, you’ll be able to access any of these three new jobs.” "

    There is no unlock quest.
    The Ishgard quests should be for additional skills and story.

    Ill bite.
    You also have access to white mage as long as you have conjurer at 30 and arcanist at 15. But you still need to unlock the job via a quest.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 04-04-2015 at 06:59 AM.