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  1. #11
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    Benchmark = A program which measures the game's graphic performance on your machine
    Demo = showcasing features and game's aspects
    If it ends up this "benchmark" has not the DX11 client then don't call it a benchmark. We already have one with the DX9 client, we don't need to download huge files to see only some cutscenes and the Au Ra. It's pointless. What we want is to see the actual performance of the DX11. To see any gains or losses and the new graphic settings. That would be more useful. I will wait to see if Yoshida will say anything about this matter in the upcoming Live Letter.
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  2. #12
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    I've been waiting for the benchmark specifically to test dx11 on my system before I make upgrades. If it doesn't have dx11 then it will be no different to running the original benchmark.

    Please give us a real benchmark SE, not just a demo.
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    What are the differences between DX9 and DX11 pertaining to this game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SummerSkye View Post
    What are the differences between DX9 and DX11 pertaining to this game?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRqW3qlYYfE

    Someone posted this from the Tokyo fanfest a while ago. DX11 comparison video starts @4:56
    The basic jist of it is that the DX11 will have better texture rendering, shading and lighting effects.
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    Last edited by Vespar; 03-31-2015 at 11:33 AM.

  5. #15
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    Kaelie Niie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riardon View Post
    Benchmark without the DX11 client is totally pointless. Benchmarks are supposed to be graphic testing programs and not only cool cutscenes. If the benchmark does not features the DX11 graphics then simply push it further in the future. I'm waiting for this benchmarks mainly to test how the DX11 client will perform on my system.
    If only we could vote this down. We know 100% that our PCs can handle the game at at least the current levels on DX9. I want the Benchmark for the Character Creator and not actually the DX11 stuff. I won't speak for others, neither should you.

    Bring on the Au Ra Char Creator and the "fun cutscene".
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    I'd rather be in Zitah

  6. #16
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    The current DX 9 bench is, last I checked, missing optimisations that the main game has since been patched for. So even if the new DX 11 one isn't ready, the DX 9 is still a benchmark, and useful at that.

    Plus, the DX 11 benchmark should theoretically run better than 9 on any machine supporting it, they didn't seem to make any drastic changes, like adding twice the effects or anything, and DX11 is more efficient.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by niwaar View Post
    If only we could vote this down. We know 100% that our PCs can handle the game at at least the current levels on DX9. I want the Benchmark for the Character Creator and not actually the DX11 stuff. I won't speak for others, neither should you.

    Bring on the Au Ra Char Creator and the "fun cutscene".
    the existing benchmark is pretty big(over 2GB), the newer ones will be no different. I too want to be able to play with the Au Ra Char creation but like Riardon I'm more interested in the benchmark to test DX11 with this game to see how well it will run on my desktop so I know if downloading the DX11 client will be worth it or not because I know that will be considerably bigger than the benchmark.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 03-31-2015 at 05:51 PM.

  8. #18
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    Working with DX11 is much easier than working with DX9.

    Most likely the DX11 version is ready to go while they have entered compatibility mode for DX9 version and working out the kinks.

    All GPU chips designed for gaming with DX11 support, natively support DX11, the GPU enter a compatibility mode when processing ole DX9 stuff.

    I'm hoping the game will go onto DX12 with the next expansion or when DX12 is ready. Lots and lots of goods things about DX12. It's microsoft's answer to the sudden burst of consumers and enterprise embracing open source API's.
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    Last edited by KaedrianLiang; 03-31-2015 at 06:10 PM.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaedrianLiang View Post
    I'm hoping the game will go onto DX12 with the next expansion or when DX12 is ready. Lots and lots of goods things about DX12. It's microsoft's answer to the sudden burst of consumers and enterprise embracing open source API's.
    that might be hard since we don't even know where microsoft is standing on what versions of windows will get DX12, if they add DX12 support to windows 7 all the way to 10 sure it might be worth it for them to look into. but if they only support windows 8 to 10 that will make things more difficult since a lot of people will refuse to upgrade from windows 7 and quite a lot of people want nothing at all to do with windows 8/8.1. remember what microsoft did with windows XP not getting DX10 even though vista was a mess till the release of windows 7.

    having DX12 support for windows 7 would be a smart move for microsoft but it remains an unlikely one since they are proving they want people to upgrade to windows 10 with their free offer to upgrade for the first year for win 7/8.1 users.

    this ofcourse does not mean the FFXIV team will upgrade to make use of DX12. but it should be actually an easier leap than DX9 to DX11 since the biggest improvements in DX12 are CPU/GPU usage tweaks.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 03-31-2015 at 06:28 PM.

  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    that might be hard since we don't even know where microsoft is standing on what versions of windows will get DX12, if they add DX12 support to windows 7 all the way to 10 sure it might be worth it for them to look into. but if they only support windows 8 to 10 that will make things more difficult since a lot of people will refuse to upgrade from windows 7 and quite a lot of people want nothing at all to do with windows 8/8.1

    having DX12 support for windows 7 would be a smart move for microsoft but it remains an unlikely one since they are proving they want people to upgrade to windows 10 with their free offer to upgrade for the first year.

    this ofcourse does not mean the FFXIV team will upgrade to make use of DX12. but it should be actually an easier leap than DX9 to DX11 since the biggest improvements in DX12 are CPU/GPU usage tweaks.
    Microsoft have stated that Users of 7/8 (Even pirated) will get a 1 year window to upgrade to Win10 for free. So they're unlikely to bother porting it down. They very much want to drop support for the older OSes, considering how stubborn people are to move on from 7. (I'm one of them).
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