This is often how I see new players treated in FFXIV:

[MeeDeggiThePunisher]

These encounters are designed with the ability to skip watching the cutscenes - anyone skipping them are simply using the tools provided to us by the developers because they acknowledge we don't need to see them dozens of times. If you want to watch it and risk being left behind, that's up to you, the option is there - but at no point should you be assuming its acceptable to hold back 3-7 other players (who are skipping the cutscenes the developers intentionally gave as a tool to use in these encounters) by expecting them to stand there idle, just for you. That's just rude.

Disgusting. We should just start calling MMOs "It's all about Me and Mine Online Role Playing Game".

[Coombah]

At the end of the day people play this game to have fun.We should try and be respectful of other players and their play styles. The community is what makes a mmo great.

[Rubicon]

This is unfortunate because I feel like lately the community has been BETTER toward new players and very often, now that I'm farming light, I notice new players in the HM trials. Maybe because those HM fights are fast, I've not heard anything nasty even during a wipe. The sad thing is, one negative encounter is more memorable than 20 positive ones. I think it's a Man in the Mirror (RIP MJ) situation that we just need to make Eorzea a better place one person at a time and starting with ourselves.

[JayCommon]

Disgusting. We should just start calling MMOs "It's all about Me and Mine Online Role Playing Game".

If this is all you retained from the entirety of my post than I believe you should check your reading comprehension. I have absolutely no problem helping "noobs", and explain fights regularly.......IF I'M ASKED.

I have a problem with people defending "noobs" when they are every single bit of "hostile" as elitists. I also have a problem with "noobs" getting openly aggressive with veterans as if they expect us to know exactly what their motives are in a particular setting. I am happy to help, but I don't owe anyone anything, so don't expect it. Ask nicely. The argument goes two ways.

The excerpt you quoted was purposely written in the exact same mannerisms as the one I quoted to inflect the importance of perspective. I literally took his/her entire argument and countered it in reverse. MMO's should NOT be renamed to your awful acronym, but it sure as hell doesn't mean I need to read minds and tip-toe around broken glass in order to figure out exactly what someone needs help with. Communicate. It's as simple as that.

If you think what I wrote is disgusting, then you should think the exact thing I retorted against is equally as disgusting, because its the exact same extreme at opposite ends of the spectrum.

[Rath]

8 man dungeons are storymode. To me that implies someone will be watching cut scenes. It does not mean everyone else must wait for them though. But nobody should kick them for watching as these dungeons clearly do not need all 8 people to complete. If they ask at the start for people to wait, that should be a group decision. In a 4 man, you do what the tank and healer decide usually.

This is how I do them and I have no issues waiting if nobody else does.

[ExKage]

To be honest I don't like both 'sides' in this particular incident.

Although, dude you're farming Battle in the Big Keep and you didn't let both healers die? Should have just done that instead of worrying about how maybe one healer is a deadweight. I heard letting healers die is the farm-rage these days.

[Noshpan]

How about we go a little Buddhist and treat everybody with compassion and dignity, instead of behaving like selfish, ill-mannered children and inflicting suffering upon others?

I will agree with the fact that CM & Prae, especially CM, have a lot of unnecessary cut scenes, that add nothing to the story. If anything, they took away from the dungeon's story. When I was doing my first run of those, I thought to myself "Did we really need a cut scene of my character looking over their shoulder as one of the search lights go out? Or that cut scene of Cid blasting a hole for me to go through?"

That being said, I also don't mind waiting for anyone, veteran or newcomer, to sit and watch a cutscene. But I am most likely in the minority.

[Ashkendor]

Duty Finder was a horrible idea.

The alternative is for people to find groups in PF or stand outside the dungeon entrance begging for help. On less populated servers, it means people would have a very hard time completing some of their duties; that in and of itself could make people quit the game while they're still in their free trial period. The DF serves its purpose, but just like anything in life you have to take the bad with the good. Most of the people I encounter are good, but the bad ones are more memorable. If the group is truly miserable for you to be in for one reason or another, whether it be abusive players or a difference in playstyle, you can always leave if you don't mind the 30 minute penalty.

[Mikhaill]

This thread is fuming with negative energy and the atmosphere is as tense as T9.

[Sadana]

However I don't agree that everyone should cater to a new persons wants. Majority rules in a group. One person's wants is not greater than the rest..

Now see... folks that say majority rules, etc. I just can't agree with. A first time run through a dungeon is the ONLY first, fresh try at that particular dungeon that player will get. Vets who are on their 10th or 100th or 1000th run, who cares if they skip cut scenes? But for the new player, that is it, it's unrepeatable. They miss it, they miss out on watching the cs in situ while completely new to the dungeon. T_T