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    Elmeron's Avatar
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    Faerie
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    This is often how I see new players treated in FFXIV:

    Read tdlr at end, my screenshot got messed up lol...It's frustrating since I have gone through similar experiences. I've only played almost 2 months now and I am really not a fan of how new people are treated in group content. Letting a person die because of something as this petty (the person had full health before boss made him unmovable and there was no predicting whether he/she would be the next target or not so essentially what people tell are telling him/her to do after the fact is to spam a heal on him/herself, and the other healer just let him/her (sorry, I really couldn't tell the gender...) die to "teach him a lesson" I'm guessing. *Eyeroll*) is really ridiculous in my opinion. All the person asked to do was be able to watch a cutscene and still be allowed to participate in the fight... The cut-scene was literally like 20-30 seconds.

    The icing on the cake is that the other healer just let that person stay dead, even when the boss fight was over.

    I'm on Faerie and I'm actually getting to a point where I'm growing tired of having not many friends and seeing this sort of toxic behavior take place. Trying to add people from forums has proven impossible too as when I go online to try to add people they aren't on, so that's been a huge bust... Guess I either have to continue dealing with this commonality or quit (I guess I have bad luck with groups too and seem to somehow attract groups like this for some reason or another).

    P.S. Forgive my crappy paint editing skills... I am not a fan of Microsoft Paint lol

    Edit: Pic is being wonky, so tdlr, players basically being asswads to new player who wanted to watch a 20-30 second cut-scene in a trial and also be able to do the fight without being locked out, player had to skip cut-scene because people are too impatient, and then when he goes, "really" he/she get's all kinds of crap, and then he/she gave crap back. Everyone was wrong, but I still think older players could not be so... Immature.
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    Last edited by Elmeron; 03-30-2015 at 01:33 PM.

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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Cirra Maru
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    Maybe that person could move to a better server or you could move to a better server too ? The only time I might dislike newbies is if they use, "I'm new" as an excuse to not do the best that they can. If a newbie is doing everything they can to play to the best of their ability I see no problem in taking a little bit extra time for them.
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    Mistoltin Fyze
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    I don't really see any good people in that chat, so what are you trying to say? The fact you can hardly tell who's saying what aside, every person involved seems to be a bit of a twat.

    Just because you're new doesn't mean that you can have things your way, especially if you're just one person in a party of 8.
    Blame Square Enix for foolishly putting cutscenes in the middle of the dungeon and then making them able to be skipped.

    Also, side note, 20-30 seconds may not seem like long, but it's tedious to sit there and wait for ONE person.
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    Elmeron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistoltin View Post
    I don't really see any good people in that chat, so what are you trying to say? The fact you can hardly tell who's saying what aside, every person involved seems to be a bit of a twat.

    Just because you're new doesn't mean that you can have things your way, especially if you're just one person in a party of 8.
    Blame Square Enix for foolishly putting cutscenes in the middle of the dungeon and then making them able to be skipped.

    Also, side note, 20-30 seconds may not seem like long, but it's tedious to sit there and wait for ONE person.
    Yeah, I couldn't get that pic to come out correct the new player didn't handle him/herself very well either, think they were frustrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistoltin View Post
    lol
    SE included a sol bonus cuz they knew new players may want to watch the cutscenes. You enjoying your sol bonus? Surely you can wait an extra 20-30 seconds off you run :P

    Why deny a new player their immersion and gaming experience because you're tired of it? Why queue for the lower level content then? I see no justification for denying any noob their immersion or experience in FFXIV, sorry.
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    Last edited by Elusana_Celah; 03-30-2015 at 01:35 PM.

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    Sadana's Avatar
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    Valia Rosa
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    This is what FCs are for. ^^;
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    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    This is what FCs are for. ^^;
    Maybe I need to find a better FC because I see this excuse reason for others to be just generally rude to new players quite a bit, but I never really do much group content with my FC. Usually just use FC as a chat-bar to be honest...
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    I'm gonna play the devil's advocate and say this..
    Ifrit cut scene is rather long, rightfully so, since it's the first primal fight.

    Now, I can wait around in Ifrit normal.. Doesn't bother me, I understand it's the first time and they wanna watch it in its entirety.. Fine by me.

    Now, what's the deal with people watching the SAME cut scene in HM and EX? It's the same thing, there's no need for that :P

    Usually if it's the normal content where it IS the person's first time, whatever I'll deal with it, only exception to this is Praetorium and Castrum, they have way too much filler cut scene imo.. Probably just wanted to make the impact leading up to the final fight.. And it's ALL FILLER


    Quote Originally Posted by Elmeron View Post
    Maybe I need to find a better FC because I see this excuse reason for others to be just generally rude to new players quite a bit, but I never really do much group content with my FC. Usually just use FC as a chat-bar to be honest...


    Yes you do, perhaps find a more close knit small FC that takes care of their own.. For all my impatience I've babbled on about, I can actually wait around and chill if I'm running with a friend or an FC member..
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    Last edited by Gillionaire; 03-30-2015 at 01:45 PM.

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    Aladire's Avatar
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    Malboro
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    I too am on the server, but since I heal or tank in dungeons and raids, I never this happen. As the main support roles, I tend to be the one that controls how things go.

    I am sorry to hear this and it does happen in other MMOs. If you need any help and I am free, feel free to ask. I hope you manage to find some better luck.
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    Gyson Kincaid
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    This weekend during one of my 8-man Duty engagements the first thing someone said in party chat was something along the lines of "My first time here. Please no bullying.".

    That just made me very disappointed in other gamers. That's just not something someone should ever have to say when playing a game.
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    Last edited by Gyson; 03-30-2015 at 01:55 PM.

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