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  1. #11
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    zeopower6's Avatar
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    Garu Dyne
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    Leviathan
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I think it was changed to do that and I've discovered it on accident sometimes when trying to Purify myself =____________________=.
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  2. #12
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    lunarose's Avatar
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    Lujei Piche
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    SLEEP and BLM LBs for days ! Purify...Sleep..Get leeched...Sleeps...Piles on LBs ;n; Crying inside.
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  3. #13
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    Zenmetsu Shogun
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    They can't really do that because that would just reopen the door for Main stat/Secondary stat melding.
    I wish they would just activate the pvp melds you buy in the den, and maybe not mainstream stuff.
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  4. #14
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Zensho View Post
    I wish they would just activate the pvp melds you buy in the den, and maybe not mainstream stuff.
    I suspect they currently can not do that because of how materia melds are set up on the back end.
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  5. #15
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    Zenmetsu Shogun
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    I suspect they currently can not do that because of how materia melds are set up on the back end.
    That's a shame because I have a full 90 set with sleep resist melds I used to rock in the den, it would be awesome if that set worked in slaughter. ; ;
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  6. #16
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    Blubbers Ubbers
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Archchancellor View Post
    Smelling Salts

    Stun Ward Potion

    Sleep Ward Potion

    These do work but the problem i the recast time. When you facing 3 teams with 4 or more BLM (which is more or less every game) 1 min 30 sec recast is a ice age.
    I tested Smellling Salts yesterday in frontlines - they do not work. I put them on my bar, and outside of frontlines it was lit up and I was able to use them. Inside it was grayed out and I could not click it.
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  7. #17
    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Buff Archer
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Blubbers View Post
    I tested Smellling Salts yesterday in frontlines - they do not work. I put them on my bar, and outside of frontlines it was lit up and I was able to use them. Inside it was grayed out and I could not click it.
    Ah damn, I guess that one was too good to be true! I bought one to try out in Slaughter mode, but since the team had 0 healers I had to swap to SCH and so that was no time for me to be experimenting with alternate ways of unsleeping players.

    In my opinion this is a good example of how even though the WD Pier has PVP actions enabled, as well as practice dummies where we can practice offensive skills and spells, that still leaves a gap as far as our being able to test out certain abilities on even willing players. For example we can't test Aura Blast's knockback on a target dummy, or a stun/silence, and can't have any status afflictions on our own party members to remove, or offensive buffs on target dummies to remove with skills that can do so. If we could initiate combat with some of those WD NPC's however, and they used weak versions of the array of PVP/PVE skills available to players, that would be a great way to test certain things and for players new to PVP to practice- people have to go to at least level 10 with their PVE skills before they can run a guildhest but with a lot of PVP abilities players can only really try them out in-game... and people have to start somewhere, but it sucks to wait 45 min for a game to be matched up with enough people who don't really know how to use PVP actions (like the bard MP refresh one for example, or actions that synergize well with others like Phantom Dart) and then we lose big time because that's their only opportunity for hands-on learning.

    Back to my point– we need more ways to try things out that we might want to do in PVP, without having to wait and see if they work or fail in an actual match.
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    Last edited by Buff_Archer; 03-27-2015 at 09:18 AM.

  8. #18
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    Geologo's Avatar
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 90
    I discovered the unusability of smelling salt long time ago in WD, where as SCH at lv30 I wasn't able to leeches and Sleep lasted for 30 sec before, So I bought it, but it didn't worked...
    I was like table flipping all xD

    And to be hones it's really a mess, if they think it would be too powerful I think they are really wrong, because they remove a specific status, u need to be close tho the sleeped one, it has a cast time, you have to target him/her and also u have to buy them.
    I would like to see wich DPS will stop their attack to unsleep someone else, I think not so much and I think they would have my commendation :P
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  9. #19
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    Lendle Veyron
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I still feel the simple solution would be to just add in an immunity effect to CC's after using purify. While still allowing resistance building.

    For instance, BLM casts sleep on me and I follow up with purify. For the next (add immunity time here) I will be unable to be slept/bound/ect. While under this effect any other CC cast on me is still building resistance. So sleeps 15 > 10? > 5?, if the person casting the CC's is not paying attention they could totally make you immune to CC's.

    This in effect will stop the CC spam, or for those sleep/freeze happy blms, ruin any chance at mass LBs.
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  10. #20
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    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 90
    Up to me in frontlines those problems doesn't exist because Bind and Sleep can be broken by ANY attack of your enemies, and you gain resistance.
    Atbiginning of the FLs I always stay in BLMs range because they LOVE to sleep you even if it is pointless because your healer will Esuna you or an opponent bard will attack you.

    Anyway I would find fine if they enable PvP materias in PvP areas, I really hate to see all those Wolf Mark almost unused when you could build some pvp gear valuable for PvP,
    or another proposal could be give a skill like purify but that enhance your status resistance or immune for few sec, and you still build resistance,
    but I hope they won't just give a passive method to reduce this problem, but give to pvpers the ability to reduce it!
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