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  1. #51
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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    Exodus
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    Paladin Lv 91
    Well for starters, I feel that in general a lot of people just don't do commendations either because they feel people don't deserve them or they just can't be bothered to do them, doesn't make it right or even really wrong but it is what it is.

    As for tanks getting comms a lot, that is just one side of the coin. Tanks both tend to get the comms when things go well or they tend to get the crap if anything goes wrong. They get the praise as well as the blame because of the player expectations heaped on the role's shoulders for better or worse.

    As for me, I give it to whoever I feel did a good enough job to make me take notice, whether that is another tank, a healer or a dps. If healers keep my HP up and relatively stable while managing to help dps and stance dance, you'll probably get a comm from me.
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  2. #52
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    Aerowaffle's Avatar
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    Isaac Direstone
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I feel like healer shows their worth the most when the party isn't doing well. When people start messing up taking unnecessary hits, that's when you can actually flex your muscle as a healer. If the party is completely competent and avoids the avoidable, the healer's skills aren't exactly stressed (and thus hard for the group to justify a commendation).

    And the party members that don't have the sense to not be in the bad, more often than not, don't have the sense to appreciate the healer that is picking up the slack.

    Healers still get more than dps though. There are less healers, thus easier to notice the efforts of one.
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  3. #53
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Do I get more comms on tank than healer? Yes, and its easy to see why. Good tanks are damn rare even in the easiest of content (heck, even somewhat competent tanks are uncommon. I know several good tanks who outright refuse to go into DF as a tank due to the abuse many people, healers especially, give them, which just makes the problem worse). Generally, people are just thankful they got a tank that kept hate and was able to clear the dungeon with minimal issues. Flip side is, anything goes wrong, its automatically the tank's fault...which leads back to why tanks are rare in the DF
    Healers, on the other hand, are much more common, and if they want comms they do have to go above and beyond. That doesn't just mean DPSing (may get a tank vote, IF the tank never got dangerously low or felt they were in trouble due to healer DPS) but helping in party chat, healing the DPS if they get hurt, knowing not to use anything that affects the tank during a pull, etc.
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    Last edited by PArcher; 03-25-2015 at 12:06 PM.

  4. #54
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    Seiryuukishi's Avatar
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    Helios Etoilefilante
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    Leviathan
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Calypsx View Post
    People need to stop being dicks to new tanks who are still learning. If a commendation at the end cheers them up and motivates them to continue to tank and help others then that's a win in my book.
    This is a HUGE reason why people dislike tanking in this game. At launch of 2.0 I began as a Warrior (well Marauder but you get the idea) and even then it was a mess. My MMO background is tanking but tanking on here was a culture shock to me so I had to get used to the notion of actually having to dodge and lower HP pool. Even still the worst of it was the some of the player base encounters in dungeons due to either a simple and easily recovered from mistake or dps getting carried away before I had a good hold on mobs or boss. Snap aggro was a foreign term to me I admit because, once again, it's not something I was accustomed to dealing with. Of course at the time commendations weren't a thing but a little kindness does go a long way. It is the same with any other role.

    If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem. Can't rant about lack of tanks if you run them off because they don't meet your criteria right out of the gate. Same goes for healers. People got to learn at their own pace otherwise they'll screw up every time.

    Back on topic some what. I was doing relic books for White Mage and had some low level dungeon that I can't recall but the tank was as green as new leaves in spring. Gladiator to be precise. I coached him through as best I could as the others couldn't be bothered to type it seemed. At the end of the dungeon he apologized for the slowness of the run and the mess ups and I simply told him to practice as that is the only way to get the feel for the role, dungeons, etc., and to not let people get under his skin. I gave him my commendation because for being new he at least tried and was willing to learn. Like to think he is still a tank or hope so at least. People can be asinine toward new people and it drives me nuts.
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    Last edited by Seiryuukishi; 03-25-2015 at 12:41 PM.
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  5. #55
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    I <3 good healers.
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  6. #56
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Honestly I get more comms while being a bard then when I heal.

    It's ok with me.
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  7. #57
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    Gunspec's Avatar
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Well, if a healer does a good job, do we notice? I mean, we aren't dead, sure, but were we really taking a lot of damage to begin with? Now a good tank will stand out because content is cleared without dps and healers getting smacked by enemies every 5 seconds. I know the tank is decent, but I might not even notice the healer.

    Everyone is happy with a decent tank, but the group has to really mess up for a decent healer to show what they've got.

    Now on those rare moments when you get all 7 commendations from one trial roulette? Yeah, those are healer moments.
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    Last edited by Gunspec; 03-25-2015 at 01:41 PM.

  8. #58
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    jomoru's Avatar
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    Arete Sophoi
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Maybe your friend has had just better luck with people? I've had plenty of dungeon runs where people run out before I can commend anyone.
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  9. #59
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    Spawnie's Avatar
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    As a singing bard, I rarely get commendations.
    I can have one screwed up healer, give them MP.
    End of the run nothing.

    With that said, I don't care for them, and I give people
    comm's if they were helpful, fun or funny.
    In a silent group, I just see who does the best.
    I wish I could give everyone a comm if they were fun.
    I asked a friend to comm a very sweet tank and her gf BLM so they could both get coms,
    and they traded with us comms too...So everyone got one that run!
    i main as bard n taken me over a year just to hit 400 commendations lol almost to the mount atleast then the dreaded 3500 goal = =
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  10. #60
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I only commendate healers that DPS+heal.
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