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    Akariel's Avatar
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    Akariel Ivashya
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    (Don't want to create another SMN thread so asking here even if a bit off-topic)

    Is there any discussion/link discussing crafted BiS for SMN? (e.g. what piece and what melds) Are there any crafted gear at all that beats DW and IW when melded?
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    Avalen Koma
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Because pet damage relies so heavily on Int and you can't make good use of Spell Speed there are no crafted items that are comparable for SMN.
    I wouldn't say Int doesn't have an affect on overall damage but I will say it's not as big as you or many others are assuming.

    I've been at ilvl126 for a very long time using this build: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q53Z, and I have managed to consistently outdps countless other well played SMNs at ilvl130 with better party setups then my own.

    I am a very staunch believer that DET has a very big role in SMN damage overall. Bigger I would argue sometimes then INT.

    Not many believe me on that front though but whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akariel View Post
    (Don't want to create another SMN thread so asking here even if a bit off-topic)

    Is there any discussion/link discussing crafted BiS for SMN? (e.g. what piece and what melds) Are there any crafted gear at all that beats DW and IW when melded?
    Kirimu Boots of Casting is one of the only pieces worthy of being called BIS with 25 crit and 6 Acc melded in.

    If you use most of the current 130 gear, you'll find that you're choosing between SS / DET or ACC/ Crit.

    This leads you to stacking alot of Crit because you need the accuracy. However, Crit past 540 has diminishing returns from my testing so it is better to stack DET for that purpose. You also should maintain your spell speed somewhere in the 370-385 range to perform optimally (closer to 370 when possible). Dropping beneth 370 will lead to a many slow shadow flare casts and DoT casts.

    The shoes in particular will help you pick up your crit to a respectable 525+once you have very high DET and overall will help you pull out really big numbers.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 03-25-2015 at 05:54 PM.

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    Divine Gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    I wouldn't say Int doesn't have an affect on overall damage but I will say it's not as big as you or many others are assuming.

    I've been at ilvl126 for a very long time using this build: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q53Z, and I have managed to consistently outdps countless other well played SMNs at ilvl130 with better party setups then my own.

    I am a very staunch believer that DET has a very big role in SMN damage overall. Bigger I would argue sometimes then INT.

    Not many believe me on that front though but whatever.
    I'm sure your performance as SMN alone should cause people to believe what you say about DET.

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    I'm still partial to this build http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q574 and I feel it might do slightly better coming in at ~ 7 INT higher, which I suspect comes in at +1% SMN damage and +2-3% pet damage. (Ifrit) (calculated without the use of food)
    But practical use would always tell the real story.

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    So even if the above set was better, it's only by just under 2% overall so well within the margin of skill vs skill.

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    I'm really curious though about what sort of damage your Ifrit can do on a Dummy. Given my terrible gear, I'm doing ~170 with Ifrit (Dummy only). I'm very curious if my Ifrit stat weights would put you around 195-200 with Ifrit.
    Rouse/Spur/Enkindle on CD using Crimson Cyclone and Flaming Crush on CD over 4 minutes.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 03-25-2015 at 11:04 PM.
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    F'yahna Mhasi
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    Getting picked for Earthshaker as a SMN isn't very fun. I'll take the extra VIT from the Augmented Robe.
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