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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    ^^^ this.

    You want to look at relative dps - if one person is doing 650 in t11, and everyone else is <500, are you really a god or did you just get a TON of uptime in the last phase cause your teams' dps is slow?
    Yep, most leaderboard numbers come from inefficient strategies or slow DPS. T12 is a beautiful example:

    Good group: SCH kills the one set of Blackfires with one very efficient Bane, 3 Bennus that get burned down HARD to have virtually no AoE, fight ends immediately after first dodge phase so uptime/downtime ratio is very bad.
    Bad/slow/inefficient group: BLM kills two sets of Blackfires, 4 Bennus die slowly and get AoE'd down, fight ends at the end of the 4th fountain so the uptime/downtime ratio is dreamy.

    BLM in group A is barely worth the raid slot and isn't too impressive, with a great clear time
    BLM in group B is a god and everyone worships him because he's so sick nasty dirty. Bad clear time and bad tactics but that's not important!
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    Kuroyasha's Avatar
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Yep, most leaderboard numbers come from inefficient strategies or slow DPS. T12 is a beautiful example:

    Good group: SCH kills the one set of Blackfires with one very efficient Bane, 3 Bennus that get burned down HARD to have virtually no AoE, fight ends immediately after first dodge phase so uptime/downtime ratio is very bad.
    Bad/slow/inefficient group: BLM kills two sets of Blackfires, 4 Bennus die slowly and get AoE'd down, fight ends at the end of the 4th fountain so the uptime/downtime ratio is dreamy.

    BLM in group A is barely worth the raid slot and isn't too impressive, with a great clear time
    BLM in group B is a god and everyone worships him because he's so sick nasty dirty. Bad clear time and bad tactics but that's not important!
    I need to make that my new nickname. Sick nasty dirty
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    I need to make that my new nickname. Sick nasty dirty
    Oh, in case you weren't aware, the term "sicknasty" is the sound effect made when a vigilante medically licensed ninja flips his affordable Japanese sedan into an alley during a hot chase. In case that ever comes up.

    Back on topic, though, my group is nowhere near that level of damage and Phlebotomize on mini-guds has largely been a complete waste of TP for me (granted, we don't split DPS, except when we're running with a SMN). If there's a mistake I consistently make, it's thinking my DoTs will pay off when they won't....
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