Noobie SCH has some questions please

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

So then.. It would work having embrace being on <t> in the same macro as something like Bio being on, with the DPS ability using <tt>, while you target the tank? I'm not playing at the moment so I can't really test it.

if you are targeting the tank, then yes, it should work. Whether it's comfortable to use is another issue. Mainly when you want to cast bio on a target that your embrace target is not targeting

[peaches]

if you are targeting the tank, then yes, it should work. Whether it's comfortable to use is another issue. Mainly when you want to cast bio on a target that your embrace target is not targeting

True, but it still lets you help in some form while still having the tank selected. You can set up Bane on a <t> and <tt> as well so you can Bane the tank's target, hitting anything nearby. Often as Scholar when you have to burn things quickly, they die before you can cast your dots anyways so this would be more so for helping with boss and add damage.

[Cynfael]

I spent a good amount of time one day trying to make combinations of target macros work, and they inevitably end up with the fairy healing herself instead of the intended target under the secondary condition.

I ended up binding Embrace <mo> to my spacebar, and I avoid the whole mess simply by spamming it at will on whomever (usually the tank) as I DPS or heal a separate target.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

True, but it still lets you help in some form while still having the tank selected. You can set up Bane on a <t> and <tt> as well so you can Bane the tank's target, hitting anything nearby. Often as Scholar when you have to burn things quickly, they die before you can cast your dots anyways so this would be more so for helping with boss and add damage.

I'm a PC user, so I can't really imagine how a Scholar can play with all the constant target switching. There -was- a topic about this before. But of course as a desktop player I didn't bother reading it xD But for you console players, it may be interesting:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ighlight=macro

[giantslayer]

So then.. It would work having embrace being on <t> in the same macro as something like Bio being on, with the DPS ability using <tt>, while you target the tank? I'm not playing at the moment so I can't really test it.

Yes, it would work, but it is a sub-optimal setup. Let me paint three scenarios for you:
A. Tank is rotating targets to spread aggro. <tt> switches with him, and you are unable to successfully execute all 3 DoTs and Bane on the same guy.
B. You decide to manually target an enemy because the tank isn't targeting the right guy. The Embrace portion of your macro triggers a self-heal.
C. Tank is targeting the right person. You fire your macro off and it works. In 2.5 seconds, your global cooldown is ready and you fire your second DoT. However, Eos has a 3 second cooldown so she is not ready when you are. She sits there doing nothing until either your third skill or the tank goes below 80% and she heals on her own.

I keep Embrace separate from my attacks.

I gave you the short version of my setup earlier. In my faerie guide, I discuss Embrace macros in one section towards the middle and targeting macros in another at the end. I have given very extensive thought to trying to make the best possible setup and feel I have more or less succeeded. Please have a look in my guide if you want a lengthy explanation.

[peaches]

I spent a good amount of time one day trying to make combinations of target macros work, and they inevitably end up with the fairy healing herself instead of the intended target under the secondary condition.

I ended up binding Embrace <mo> to my spacebar, and I avoid the whole mess simply by spamming it at will on whomever (usually the tank) as I DPS or heal a separate target.

I tried <mo> macros when the game first came out but found it to be a bit wonky, and sometimes it would heal me instead of the person I had targeted, or my MO target. Maybe it's been improved, or maybe I just didn't have it set up correctly, I'm not sure.

I'm a PC user, so I can't really imagine how a Scholar can play with all the constant target switching. There -was- a topic about this before. But of course as a desktop player I didn't bother reading it xD But for you console players, it may be interesting:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ighlight=macro

Thanks for this, will definitely check it out! I actually do play on PC though, I just use my PS4 controller. I started on PC, then switched to PS4 because my PC's GPU was a little weak for the game, and it played better on my PS4. Now that I've upgraded, I'm back on the PC, but I fell in love with healing on the gamepad. I can't easily press any buttons besides 1-5 and Shift+1-5, so I click a lot of my abilities, taking my eyes away from the fight.

With the Gamepad I have easy, instant access to about 48 ability slots, all of which have been memorized. That said, it definitely isn't optimal for certain classes I've found, and some things are a pain to do, like healing Alliance members in 24m content.

[Cynfael]

I tried <mo> macros when the game first came out but found it to be a bit wonky, and sometimes it would heal me instead of the person I had targeted, or my MO target. Maybe it's been improved, or maybe I just didn't have it set up correctly, I'm not sure.

I didn't like <mo> the first time I tried it, either, but once I resigned myself to using it for Embrace I was able to make it work well. I found that various attempts at <t> macros were too clunky, restrictive, or outright broken to be very useful, and the speed of mouse-over makes for very efficient split healing.

I also use <mo> on BLM for Aetherial Manipulation since it takes less time to mouse over someone in the party list than it does to click-confirm them prior to using the skill. If I were using AM to escape an AoE or to hug allies for a "gather" mechanic, I'd usually make it there faster and more reliably by clicking sprint and taking off running if I didn't have a snappy way to AM on command.

[Ghishlain]

I was reviewing text commands on the Lodestone and the closest thing I could think of to get Embrace spam on a single target for a long duration is:

/marking circle <<<< This marks whomever you're targetting with Circle
/pac Embrace <circle> <wait.X>

Repeat for X amount of lines for Embrace spamage. Of course this leads to screen clutter due to the marking showing up and other players can mess with it too. Not the most ideal solution.

I wish <lastst> would keep track of said target for the duration of the macro. That would resolve quite a few issues with an Embrace spam macro, in my opinion.

[EDIT] Though, thinking about the marking a bit more, you'd need to either have the marking removed at the end of the macro or a separate macro just to heal the marked since remarking the target would cause the mark to be removed /think

[giantslayer]

I was reviewing text commands on the Lodestone and the closest thing I could think of to get Embrace spam on a single target for a long duration is:

/marking circle <<<< This marks whomever you're targetting with Circle
/pac Embrace <circle> <wait.X>

Repeat for X amount of lines for Embrace spamage. Of course this leads to screen clutter due to the marking showing up and other players can mess with it too. Not the most ideal solution.

Don't forget that using another macro will stop your spam macro. There are a few people on the forum who have their own variations of a long spam macro and it works for them, but I prefer other methods.

[Ghishlain]

Don't forget that using another macro will stop your spam macro. There are a few people on the forum who have their own variations of a long spam macro and it works for them, but I prefer other methods.

Indeed, I'm personally a fan of the long spam macros though I know many are not. Different strokes for different folks~ And as such, different considerations for the style one may want to use.