Whats with the Gladiator's in high lvl dungeons?

[kyuven]

From what I understand, they're not phasing classes out and will probably revisit them in a future expansion. 3.0's jobs aren't the 'way of the future;' they're just being called 'Extra Jobs.' I'm guessing this is a band-aid while they figure out how to fix the existing class/job armory system.

They'll probably be able to come back to it once the level cap is expanded beyond 60 and classes actually have enough skills to be able to blend into another role.
Cuz another problem is viability: In order to make the additional jobs matter, they would need to find a role completely distinct from the other job with its own unique abilities.
A few of them...just kinda don't have anywhere to go. Marauder could theoretically split into Berserker, and Archer could split into Ranger, but then you have the conjurer problem: While MRD and GLD could be segued into a DPS job pretty easily, CNJ has primarily heals as class abilities, limiting their options in a big way.
There's also the problem that adding new jobs wouldn't give players anything new to do except the quests. You'd suddenly have hundreds or thousands of new, say, Rangers who have absolutely no idea how to use their abilities since they just speed ran the job quests and *presto* level 50 with no work.

[Kitfox]

Not bots. Gil-farming bots always queue together, usually it's a party of 4 BLMs.

There are other kinds of bots. There's been multiple instances where I've had a tank bot in a DF dungeon run. They basically just run ahead doing a terrible job, or follow the party and then engage mobs that are near enough. I'm guessing these bots are meant to level up mostly, instead of making gil.

[JimboTCB]

Not having a new player tag doesn't mean they're not a "new" player (if that makes any sense...) I think the tag disappears after 40 hours playtime or something like that, and if you messed around a lot and swapped classes a few times you could probably manage that before you even hit 30. Maybe he did that and just never bothered picking up his job quest, or just couldn't be bothered picking up and levelling the necessary subclass (personally I'm not looking forward to hitting 30 on my gladiator and having to learn how to be a smelly wizard just to continue...)

[Aphel]

Duty Finder, Savage Mode.

[Rufalus]

Well it can be removed.

Wouldn't be practical to remove classes, they would have to throw away too much stuff. The whole progression of starting at the class guilds and doing class quests would have to be tampered with.

[Cid_Grim]

Not having a new player tag doesn't mean they're not a "new" player (if that makes any sense...) I think the tag disappears after 40 hours

You can also shut that off manually each time you login.

[Saseal]

DFed into T1 and Ultima HM with a level 50 Glad o_O Two diff days, same fella.

In T1, he couldn't hold hate on the spawning ADDs in the ADS fight and wiped a bunch of times. We somehow managed to get through, but then couldn't hold hate at the snakes. we ended up vote abandoning.
In Ultima, had queued with FC mates - one of which was tank. He couldn't grab hate from our FC pali at 3 stacks x.x wipe after wipe... Eventually he did, but I was too busy to notice what out pali did (other than stand there with shield oath off?) to shake off the aggro on himself. I don't think we completed it, though.

[Seig345]

I think I had already mindlessly spammed levequests to get CNJ to 50 before they even brought in the job system, but I definitely remember the original job quests were designed with the expectation that you'd find people to join your group in order to complete them. Then I worked on Thm and I had to take the Blm crystal off in order to survive leves by having cure and second wind.

Now if I'm doing solo stuff as Whm, I just throw up cleric stance and maybe call my chocobo. I had both Cnj and Thm at 50 before ARR hit, so I guess I'll actually have to level Thm/Blm again for the first time sincce 2012 once the expansion hits. ;p

[Ashkendor]

DFed into T1 and Ultima HM with a level 50 Glad o_O Two diff days, same fella.

You're much nicer than I would have been. As soon as they showed that they couldn't do the job they're in there for (tanking and everything that comes with it), I would've vote kicked them. I don't go into DF to babysit people while they goof off. Yes they pay their sub so they can play the game their way, but so do the other seven people in the party. It's patently unfair to impose on them in that way just so you can have some giggles. You can make an argument for it in single tank fights (even then who's to guarantee the other tank will be any more capable of tanking?) but in duties like Ultima where you have a forced tank swap, that's utterly ridiculous. :|

If you wanna queue for duties with no soul crystals, get seven buddies and do it together. It's kinda fun.

[Eidolon]

Warriors used to unequip their Soul Crystals back in LotA because you didn't need two tanks for ANY of the fights. It was all literally one tank (at most) and this was a GREAT way to increase DPS for those who were offtanking as Warrior.

It's been a bit less popular recently but I wouldn't be surprised if the Gladiator is playing around with fufilling his roll and/or a roll as an offtank as a Gladiator instead of being a full-time PLD. but I think PLD's do more DPS than Gladiators do because of Sword Oath, while Warrior's can't do that because all we get is lame-o defiance :P