£130 =/= $130

[Natsuno]

Some people are probably comparing it to USD to help make sense of it in their own mind (or to others), or how much it would cost themselves at the current exchange rate. Some are misguided, partly due to thread title, and the rest are concerned about GBP to Euro, and the inability to purchase the item for its alternate value in euros.

[Lexxuk]

IBut USA is not in EU Nation and peeps are comparing $ to £ and saying it is against EU ruling...

Well, if it makes you feel better we can compare it to the Euro? The game is €130 which is £93.91 (at current rates), so we're paying near enough £38 more than people in France, you could physically take a ferry to France and buy the game there and it would cost you less than £38 (will cost £20)

[Sebazy]

I know UK is an EU Nation... -_-

But USA is not in EU Nation and peeps are comparing $ to £ and saying it is against EU ruling...

At most £ against € since you are dealing with SE Europe and not SE America

The Dollars to Euros conversion is decent and given the current trend for a strong Dollar vs a weak Euro, there's a very real chance that EU buyers will actually be getting the better deal by the time Heavensward's launch comes around.

I suspect you are misunderstanding people. The issue is of course with the € vs £ conversion going on here, US Dollars are just getting pitched in as a convenient reference point, same with the Yen. 3 Currencies are getting a broadly similar deal, two more are getting marked up to the order of 35% or more, unfortunately where the Aussies can do little but listen to excuses of 'distribution' this and 'logistics' that, the UK has the advantage of being part of the European single market and falling within the consumer protection and rights that that brings.

On a side note, I wonder if The Sun newspaper still does those france ferry tickets for £1?

J/K of course! I'd only ever buy that paper to cope with the Clarkson withdrawals! =(

[Pixxelated]

http://www.ukecc.net/Complaints.cfm

Email them, write them, or phone them. Your choice, but the more complaints about this, the better.

[KirakunAUS]

Well, if it makes you feel better we can compare it to the Euro? The game is €130 which is £93.91 (at current rates), so we're paying near enough £38 more than people in France, you could physically take a ferry to France and buy the game there and it would cost you less than £38 (will cost £20)

Then do so -_-;

The Dollars to Euros conversion is decent and given the current trend for a strong Dollar vs a weak Euro, there's a very real chance that EU buyers will actually be getting the better deal by the time Heavensward's launch comes around.

I suspect you are misunderstanding people. The issue is of course with the € vs £ conversion going on here, US Dollars are just getting pitched in as a convenient reference point, same with the Yen. 3 Currencies are getting a broadly similar deal, two more are getting marked up to the order of 35% or more, unfortunately where the Aussies can do little but listen to excuses of 'distribution' this and 'logistics' that, the UK has the advantage of being part of the European single market and falling within the consumer protection and rights that that brings.

On a side note, I wonder if The Sun newspaper still does those france ferry tickets for £1?

J/K of course! I'd only ever buy that paper to cope with the Clarkson withdrawals! =(

Nope. There's no misunderstanding here.
When I read this topic... to me, the use of USD is so much instead of being the reference, it is being the main agenda.

What I am saying, is just that instead of using USD as the main argument, wouldn't using € be more advisable to make a compelling argument as it is about € vs £.

If we were to talk about $ vs £, sadly i think it reflects to the whole gaming industry
Again, I reference Konami's MGS V where is cost $99.99 in the US £99.99 in the UK.

Now SE with Heavenwards $129.99 in the US £129.99 in the UK.

If Capcom to sell a limited edition DmC with Dante statue... plans to sell for $150, i am convinced it will be £150 in the UK.

Why the difference in monetary value? Operation cost? Greed? I don't know

Whatever it is... i really hope UK is paying equivalent to other EU cause imagine us Australian paying based on £.

That will be too expensive after all the associated cost and profit

[Hyunckel]

I doubt SE would ever give an official reason behind that ripoff pricing...

[Lexxuk]

What I am saying, is just that instead of using USD as the main argument, wouldn't using € be more advisable to make a compelling argument as it is about € vs £.

The $ and the € are pretty much on equal footing, 1:1 exchange rate near enough. Now, ask any American who comes on here to put down the € symbol without using copy/paste (it's a 3 finger key press), they can't, it's not on your keyboard and it's most likely not in your key mapping. We're using Dollars because, generally, game prices are $X and £Y, this time SE went with $X, £X and €X, with zero justification.

We, in the UK, are getting exactly the same content in the CE as our friends on the mainland, there is no difference, tax isn't the issue, in fact, let's look at VAT. VAT is a tax applied to SE based on the country of the purchaser, so if they sell to a guy in Belgium they pay less tax than if they sell to a guy in Finland.

VAT Rates:

17% : Luxembourg
18% : Malta
19% : Cyprus (where soldiers on British bases pay €130), Germany
20% : Austria, Bulgaria, Estonia, France, Slovakia, UK

The other member nations are 21%+ and not interesting till you get to

25% : Croatia, Denmark, Sweden
27% : Hungary

VAT, that is the tax that SE has to pay the government, they have to pay €35.10 if you're in Hungary, €32.50 if you're in Croatia, Denmark or Sweden, if they allowed us to pay in Euros the VAT they would have to pay is €26, that's 9 Euros LESS than Hungary. Obviously, as they are charging us in £, that's £26, which converts into €35.89, more than the 27% tax rate, go figure.

[Reynhart]

What I am saying, is just that instead of using USD as the main argument, wouldn't using € be more advisable to make a compelling argument as it is about € vs £.

It's the same wether we compare from $ or €.
Digital CE ? Correct exchange rate
Physical CE ? Total rippoff.

[ShadowHulk]

http://www.ukecc.net/Complaints.cfm

Email them, write them, or phone them. Your choice, but the more complaints about this, the better.

/10charlimit on posts. Bump.

[Sebazy]

Nope. There's no misunderstanding here.
When I read this topic... to me, the use of USD is so much instead of being the reference, it is being the main agenda.

What I am saying, is just that instead of using USD as the main argument, wouldn't using € be more advisable to make a compelling argument as it is about € vs £.

If we were to talk about $ vs £, sadly i think it reflects to the whole gaming industry

As you say, the people moaning about USD, AUD and GBP price differences aren't going to get anywhere, there's no comeback against that outside of SE miraculously having a change of heart as it's just not something that's regulated.

However, the MGS V comparison isn't as relevant as you think as there is a key difference you are missing:

If I don't like the fact that I'm having to pay £99.99 to pre order MGS V from Game or whomever in the UK, the EU single market means that I would have been well within my rights to have just preordered it from Amazon.fr instead and thus would have paid €99.99 aka 35% or so less.

SE's store doesn't allow this, instead choosing to enforce that price hike on me whether I like it or not with no option or alternative available despite the fact that other people within the EU are buying from exactly the same store and depot at a significantly cheaper rate.

This is price discrimination and unfortunately for SE, it is explicitly outlawed within EU consumer protection law. The tricky part is figuring out if these games actually fall into a category covered by this law. Evidently there isn't a case history to go by yet, so the best we can do is raise our concerns with the relevant authorities and hope for the best. Needless to say, if the ECC picks up on this, you can expect to see this practice stopping rather sharpish.