Relic Weapon Qestions/Discussions

[Priya]

The alexandrite stage isn't too bad outside the materia. They need to nerf the materia part badly. The only way I can really think of how to do that is to up all the meld success rates. (Although, I've always been salty that we can't convert dungeon drops or tome rewards. That alone would make materia cost less).

[Maero]

Gods no, Alexandrite and Animus was easy pz, Zodiac was by far the worst other then the initial atma grind before rate increase. 1 have 1 Zeta, 2 Animus, 1 Novus and 1 atma weapon so i know all to well....
Cost however for Novus was just ... bleh gross
Alexandrite you get random drops from fates (which they increased), 1 a day from doing Expert Roulette and also they can be purchased with tomes and hunt seals
I hope Zodiac quest line gets changed that would save so much more time and sanity

[KyteStones]

I was just thinking that maybe if they changed the books to:

-Kill 5 monsters of 3 species
-1 fate
-1 dungeon

more people may be inclined to actually take the time to do it. I know people spent hours and hours grinding that out and my hats off to them for putting up with that grind. I'd even be willing to take a hit on the next content having to do a couple things harder than those who have it done already or hell give them an item for doing it or jump start them to the next progression. I don't see many people running around with i135 weapons fully upgraded, a lot of people I talk to on my server just go for the coil weapons and leave it at that.

I want my BLM staff, but I just don't find the enjoyment in spending all that time for the weapon when I can be doing other content and having fun with the game.

[SummonerSenah]

I'm at Nexus stage with two weapons and the stage I like the least so far is Zodiac. Since I've started it, I've had to run dungeons so much that I am almost finished gearing up my alts with soldiery, bought two soldiery weapons, bought four books for my black mage atma, bought Alex maps to get Alex for black mage weapon when I get to that stage, and picked up extra sacred spring waters. At least in the atma stage, fates only take a few minutes so if an atma doesn't drop, nbd, just try another fate. With the Zodiac stage you might spend 30-40 minutes in a dungeon and not get a drop. It's really off putting.

[Lemuria]

Everything up to and including Zenith is fine and dandy.
Atma hunting is a lot easier since its nerf, but can still be incredibly frustrating for many players.
Atma book grinding is incredibly boring, largely impounded by the long wait on many of the Fates.
Alexandrite hunts are time consuming, but the real penalty here is the materia which can get immensely expensive or time consuming.
Light farming is not fun even in my wildest delusions. It's long-winded and dull, and the 'boost' it got just made a long grind only slightly less long.

[Rubicon]

I'm slow to my relic but my only complains thus far was waiting on FATEs for books (the rest is easy) and collecting the Alexandrite. Yes the costs are lower but I've yet to get one from a FATE (FATE grinding, yuck) and I only average about 1.5 a day. I'll try to grind this weekend but the most I've ever gotten is 4 in a day by having a surplus of soldiery. I've heard once you hit lights it's super fast.

[SummonerSenah]

I have noticed something that makes the fates easier, though. It is probably just confirmation bias but I've found that when one of the fates in your book pops, head to the zone where one of the other fates is immediately after. It will usually pop just after you get there. I've had this happen consistently enough that I use it with every book now. The other day I needed Bellyfull for a book but when I got to Coerthas it was at like 50% so I didn't bother. Instead I went to Aleport for the next fate, King's Justice, and sure enough it started not long after I got to the Isle of Umbra.

[Kiara1]

I think the grind is fine tbh, now that I have one zeta and one zodiac I am feeling bored cause I don't have any other job I want to get relic for, so all I can do now is farm zeta for whm, but light/zeta farm is the worst of the grinds imo.
And I admit the books are probably worse than light farming. The dungeon parts are allright, the leves too, the enemies is soooo boring, and the fates suck so much. I spent 2hrs 30 min on one fate, and since then I never wanted to do that part ever again

[Ashkendor]

Atma book grinding is incredibly boring, largely impounded by the long wait on many of the Fates.

Huh? I'm on my third Zeta. One was pre-nerf, and two have been recently after all the nerfs. I don't think I've waited longer than 15-20 minutes for any of the fates since the frequency on them was increased. There's usually book mobs in the same area as the fates, so I kill those while I'm waiting. Otherwise I craft a bit, usually making gear to spiritbond while I kill my book mobs. I made a killing off materia from wearing level 49 gear while I kill my book mobs/fates, and I also got my chocobo massive amounts of experience taking him with me.

Alexandrite hunts are time consuming, but the real penalty here is the materia which can get immensely expensive or time consuming.

Agreed, I haven't had an issue with alex since the first one. Getting alex at release was a nightmare. If you want to do an optimal meld however, the materia can be stupid expensive. That's why my stats are split three ways on all of my relics. There's just no point to me in investing that kind of time/money into it for a few more points of det.

Light farming is not fun even in my wildest delusions. It's long-winded and dull, and the 'boost' it got just made a long grind only slightly less long.

Nexus light farming is the most tedious relic stage imo. There's just no way to make it any shorter. When you're on your second relic and beyond, at least you can do Nexus/Zodiac at the same time, so you overlap running for your drops with getting some light. Nexus light is still tedious as hell. I'm glad they finally threw us a bone with Zeta.

[Felis]

I think the grind is fine tbh, now that I have one zeta and one zodiac I am feeling bored cause I don't have any other job I want to get relic for, so all I can do now is farm zeta for whm, but light/zeta farm is the worst of the grinds imo.
And I admit the books are probably worse than light farming. The dungeon parts are allright, the leves too, the enemies is soooo boring, and the fates suck so much. I spent 2hrs 30 min on one fate, and since then I never wanted to do that part ever again

Farming light fo the Zeta is the fastest step after zenith. A casual can do it in 1 week, someone who farm HM after HM for light within 1 day.