Losing the RMT spam war SE?

[Amenian]

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There are quite a few reasonable people, insofar as what they expect SE to do, in the anti-RMT side of this debate. I like to believe I'm one of them. Those who are reasonable don't expect SE to be able to fix people, I sure don't. What we're requesting is more options for us to reduce the spam we get, such as account-wide blacklists. I think this is more than fair.

[Yurimi]

My suggestion is simple have an automated system where you put a character that is invisible to see put them in an FC to avoid getting FC invite tells basically give no reason for someone to send them a tell. So when they get a tell have that 1 intern monitoring the 30 or whatever characters across all servers look at that screen and just ban that account 3 interns 8 hour shifts you just massively cut the RMT problem. if you dont want to pay the 3 interns then make it automated to ban an incoming tell and have an appeal proccess regarding this specifically to fast track them. 1-2 mistakes a week > sifting through thousands of RMT accounts.

[Maxipep]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, make shards unsellable and for those that don't want to mine buyable from NPC's. No shards = Less Gil for RMT to sell

[Riepah]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, make shards unsellable and for those that don't want to mine buyable from NPC's. No shards = Less Gil for RMT to sell

I really doubt those groups of 4 BLMs/ARCs disappeared at the same time after signing up for duty in order to farm shards.

[Kosmos992k]

My suggestion is simple have an automated system where you put a character that is invisible to see put them in an FC to avoid getting FC invite tells basically give no reason for someone to send them a tell. So when they get a tell have that 1 intern monitoring the 30 or whatever characters across all servers look at that screen and just ban that account 3 interns 8 hour shifts you just massively cut the RMT problem..

Actually a variation of this would work pretty well, kind of a honeypot trap. It would work well if you could come up with some way for the honeypot to parse incoming tells to determine which are RMT sells, and which are just stupid player spam. Either way, it would work well for tracing the spam accounts - not the spam players since the RMT can create a character, spam for X minutes, and delete the character. But by tracing the account this way it would help greatly.

[Ren_Taka]

Sadly, it's got to the stage where we're getting 1 a minute now, we would be doing nothing but filling in spam reports constantly, add that to the fact the RMT logs out, makes a new char and starts spamming on THAT one, and we'd be reporting the same account several times a day. We need to be able to block them at source, so that we're getting zero spam messages.

Exactly. These days, I find that I already have 1-3 tells from RMTs when I enter the game most of the time.

[Red_Wolf]

There's a lot of SE apologists in this thread. What you guys don't realize is tell spam is virtually gone from most MMOs. Trion, Blizzard, SOE, etc... all have filters in place and proper blacklists. Gold sellers are reduced to sending in-game mails which are also usually blocked.

So... No... SE hasn't really done anything. It's very disappointing for a game of this size.

[Sandoria]

There's a lot of SE apologists in this thread. What you guys don't realize is tell spam is virtually gone from most MMOs. Trion, Blizzard, SOE, etc... all have filters in place and proper blacklists. Gold sellers are reduced to sending in-game mails which are also usually blocked.

So... No... SE hasn't really done anything. It's very disappointing for a game of this size.

This is very true. Because Blizzard would smack the banhammer down on /tell spammers, the sellers would resort to hacks making their dead character bodies spell out the names of their websites in the center of town. It would have been amusing even if it wasn't promoting RMt nastiness.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

well i reported this teleporting bot here collecting at lv30 Wind aspect nodes... two weeks ago. legit question... is it really that difficult to trace an account?

There's a lot of SE apologists in this thread. What you guys don't realize is tell spam is virtually gone from most MMOs. Trion, Blizzard, SOE, etc... all have filters in place and proper blacklists. Gold sellers are reduced to sending in-game mails which are also usually blocked.

So... No... SE hasn't really done anything. It's very disappointing for a game of this size.

and this^

while they do do SOMETHING, it really is very little. and could be considered next to nothing at all. either way, whatever they are doing... it isn't effective in the slightest.

now don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to bash SE here. they probably got teams on this game that are new, or relativity new. they may simply not have such grandeur experience like those other companies. them others have been at this a long time.

[Elusana_Celah]

Losing the war indeed. The gil sellers are like "Meh, they aren't banning us or doing shit let's take it to shouts now boyz!!"