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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
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    Or they could just disagree with you and are genuinely worried about accessibility? Everyone involved in this argument has basically completed the MSQ so by the same way you find it funny that someone can be concerned about new players being gated, they can find it hilarious that you feel the need to block off content behind "story" to give yourself some imaginary status above new players. And yes, I used "story" in quotes, because SE has and will continue to make game play and story adjustments for the sake of accessibility. We all know SE is going to simply ignore that fact that there are going to be some greenleaf Au Ra running around after 3.0 launches. None of us are going to be affected by SEs decision, but let's not pretend that we are any better because we are on one side "lore rawr rawr" or the other "accessibility rawr rawr".


    Do I think that new players should get to skip 2.1-2.5. Heavens no, the story is so tied into the plot of Heavensward that it wouldn't make a lick of sense. Do I think that some content shouldn't be gated behind it, it depends on the content. Heavensward is a 51-60 expansion pack to a story based game so anyone buying it should realize that they need to be caught up and at the appropriate level so I'm fine with dungeons and locations being locks. I'm a bit iffy when it comes to Jobs however.
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    Last edited by Omegakiyohime; 03-20-2015 at 07:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
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    I do believe you made up an argument from me to respond to, instead of responding to anything I actually said.

    The developers are doing what they can to live up to this game's dual nature as both an MMO and a numbered entry in the Final Fantasy series.

    It's an MMO, so they can't simply let new players skip the character progression that defines the MMO genre. End-game is not the "start" of the game, but merely a countermeasure in place to prevent current players from unsubbing after they've completed leveling content. Most new players aren't in a rush to get to level cap and "start" the game, so they'll be in it for the 60 levels worth of story content before they even hit that point.

    It's a Final Fantasy game, so story has to come first. They're doing the best they can to keep the MMO aspects of the game tied into the ongoing story, with features being unlocked at the rate they would be in any other Final Fantasy game. I'm not sure why that surprises anyone, honestly.

    Eventually, they may pull a XIII-2 and simply drop a massive spoiler warning on the latest add-on scenario, but there's no need to start doing that with the first expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    I do believe you made up an argument from me to respond to, instead of responding to anything I actually said.
    I was responding to the condescending snipe that you made that anyone actually "worried" about new players was just doing so to level their alts as quickly as possible and raid. I agree with most of the things that you've said to an extent, but accessibility of content has been a goal for this dev. team and I really took issue with that snipe so I responded to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
    I was responding to the condescending snipe that you made that anyone actually "worried" about new players was just doing so to level their alts as quickly as possible and raid. I agree with most of the things that you've said to an extent, but accessibility of content has been a goal for this dev. team and I really took issue with that snipe so I responded to it.
    In that case, I apologize. It was never a statement I intended for anyone to take too seriously, but then again, sarcasm and forums are like oil and water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    In that case, I apologize. It was never a statement I intended for anyone to take too seriously, but then again, sarcasm and forums are like oil and water.
    I apologize for my tone as well, Fenral. You never really know on these forums and I could have stated my point/issue more eloquently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime View Post
    I apologize for my tone as well, Fenral. You never really know on these forums and I could have stated my point/issue more eloquently.
    It's nice to see people settle things in a mature fashion on here..

    As for the main topic. I'm not really too excited. I'm a little concerned about any new players that happens to come.
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