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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    I think the job system + materia will be fixing this so this, while not a bad idea in itself, is not something they will consider, I think.
    The job system has nothing to do with stats, it only deals with skills A job might give minor stat bonuses, but it wont affect permanent stat progression for the character.

    It also probably wont do anything for people like me who wont be using the job system until much later because we don't want to be locked down to a specific role if that role is on a weapon we do not like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    The job system has nothing to do with stats, it only deals with skills A job might give minor stat bonuses, but it wont affect permanent stat progression for the character.
    Nor would your idea. Since you can unequip skills to change your stats. So will the job system. It's permanent in the same way, once you unlock a job, ie Paladin, you will always have to choice to "equip" it to gain the desired tank stats (more vit), plus it limits your skills and from what I understand give you some unique job abilities.

    Like I said, your idea might be good, but it doesn't fit with the upcoming job system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    Nor would your idea. Since you can unequip skills to change your stats. So will the job system. It's permanent in the same way, once you unlock a job, ie Paladin, you will always have to choice to "equip" it to gain the desired tank stats (more vit), plus it limits your skills and from what I understand give you some unique job abilities.

    Like I said, your idea might be good, but it doesn't fit with the upcoming job system.
    Actually I think it would work awesomely. If all the skills a Paladin gets from its job grant Defense, Vit, HP, Mnd, and Healing power, It would greatly help them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Actually I think it would work awesomely. If all the skills a Paladin gets from its job grant Defense, Vit, HP, Mnd, and Healing power, It would greatly help them.
    Yes I understand what you mean, but what if instead, equiping the paladin job it would give you the same Def, Vit, HP (but that's vit), some MND and healing power. Saving us the trouble of having skills granting stats and giving the same end result AND allowing players to actually choose the skills they want to use instead of having cookie cutter skill build for everyone. And since they are already working and polishing the job system, they could add this without much trouble I'd assume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    Yes I understand what you mean, but what if instead, equiping the paladin job it would give you the same Def, Vit, HP (but that's vit), some MND and healing power. Saving us the trouble of having skills granting stats and giving the same end result AND allowing players to actually choose the skills they want to use instead of having cookie cutter skill build for everyone. And since they are already working and polishing the job system, they could add this without much trouble I'd assume.
    The job IS a cookie cutter build you wont be making many changes from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    The job IS a cookie cutter build you wont be making many changes from it.
    Of course not, if you are a paladin you are a tank and with the job will come the necessary traits/stats to perform in your role. BUT you still have the choice of what abilities you want to set on your action bar.

    With your suggestion it's almost like forcing people to use X and X skill if they want to perform in their role. Everyone will be expected to have X and X ability set for Y role they want to perform. Else they will be subpar.

    Integrating the stats/trait with the jobs is much more logical since if you invite a paladin in your group, you know that he will have the proper stats to do his role, and the white mage will have the traits/skills to do his role, regardless of what combination of skills/spells they have set on their bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    Of course not, if you are a paladin you are a tank and with the job will come the necessary traits/stats to perform in your role. BUT you still have the choice of what abilities you want to set on your action bar.

    With your suggestion it's almost like forcing people to use X and X skill if they want to perform in their role. Everyone will be expected to have X and X ability set for Y role they want to perform. Else they will be subpar.

    Integrating the stats/trait with the jobs is much more logical since if you invite a paladin in your group, you know that he will have the proper stats to do his role, and the white mage will have the traits/skills to do his role, regardless of what combination of skills/spells they have set on their bar.

    Your system limits its use only if your using a job (not everyone wants too) my system lets everyone use it even if using a job.

    I'd rather go with the system thats more inclusive.
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