Does SE actually do anything when we report bots/gilsellers?

[NinjaTaru72]

You know, why does the just beat them at their own game.

I know may people would oppose it(me included)... But...

If SE sold gil on the shop, for a fraction of the price the gil sellers do. GG sellers. And since it's their game and they can literally create money, they could just be like "oh, 10mil? 10$"

That would put all of the gil sellers in the ditch.

I hope they find a better way than this, but if it comes to it this could be a good way to end it.

[DracotheDragon]

Then explain the hundreds of bots, across all servers, that have not been banned since launch, even with hundreds of reports each.

easy they have to physically conform its bots, and if a bot dose probably one thing that wasn't reported them doing in the act of betting then they may judge it to be a honest player,

or the fact that judging one bot takes up a lot of time so they cat keep up with the increasements of bots,

with some of them some bots are programmed with a RNG in themselves to switch to a new thing or act like a human player would making it harder to judge if someone is a player or a bot, bots that spam tell are more easily conformed then bots that are silant, as for bots standing around doing nothing, you got me there.

[Taliph]

easy they have to physically conform its bots, and if a bot dose probably one thing that wasn't reported them doing in the act of betting then they may judge it to be a honest player,

or the fact that judging one bot takes up a lot of time so they cat keep up with the increasements of bots,

with some of them some bots are programmed with a RNG in themselves to switch to a new thing or act like a human player would making it harder to judge if someone is a player or a bot, bots that spam tell are more easily conformed then bots that are silant, as for bots standing around doing nothing, you got me there.

Funny, but isn't it automatic confirmation that it is a bot when they do things while the system has them tagged afk? Pretty sure no honest player can do this. Also, if it takes a year or more to "investigate" things like this, then I propose hiring more intelligent investigators.

For SE to hit RMT in the pocketbook, they would also be hitting their own.

[Snugglebutt]

Sometimes they do but most of the time they do not, on the very rare occasions where they have taken action in my experience it is normally only against RMT chat spammers or limited to huge bot armies when those armies are congested in one place and even then requires multiple reports both in game and using the web service to report them. They have never banned any botting (non-RMT) players I have reported though. They tend to ban RMT chat spammers more so than any other types.

[darkknigh]

I'll admit that I never reported bots or gil spammers. It just takes too much time. I log on, /busy, and communicate through FC chat and LS.

Not only too much time, but no matter how many they get rid of, more will just spring up in their place. I just blacklist em, then remove them from the blacklist once they are marked as deleted on that list.

[Able]

Not only too much time, but no matter how many they get rid of, more will just spring up in their place. I just blacklist em, then remove them from the blacklist once they are marked as deleted on that list.

I don't bother blacklisting anymore. /busy takes care of it all!!

[KittytheSheGeek]

I don't really bother reporting anymore either. By the time I go through the process, I usually have another message waiting to be reported, so now I usually just add them to my blacklist and carry on. If SE had a faster way to report bots/gil spammers, I'd probably still be doing it. But honestly, it doesn't feel like it's worth the effort because it's a CONSTANT problem, and nothing has changed.

[KyteStones]

If any of you have played XI or 1.0 then you'd remember the out-of-nowhere massive ban wave for RMT and BOTS that were instantly wiped out. In XI the bots/rmt almost disappeared all together (while having some repercussions of accidentally banning legit players which were resolved slowly) and 1.0 RMT was gone for so long it made me so happy.

Give it time. I know the games been out for over a year now, but remember, one day it's gonna happen and it's going to be a glorious day.

[MageBlack]

Banning the bot is not a solution to the problem. Its a band-aid. If they are smart, they will tag the bots, watch their activities and use them as a basis for patch fixes later on that will help prevent the RMT gil earning activities.

Bot's arent the problem. People selling and buying gil for real money, thats the problem. They support each other and keep the wheel spinning.

[Taliph]

Banning the bot is not a solution to the problem. Its a band-aid. If they are smart, they will tag the bots, watch their activities and use them as a basis for patch fixes later on that will help prevent the RMT gil earning activities.

Bot's arent the problem. People selling and buying gil for real money, thats the problem. They support each other and keep the wheel spinning.

Daily banning of bots, both gathering and spamming, increases the cost to operate. This drives up RMT prices. Which reduces customer base. Thereby requiring further RMT price increases. Eventually this reduces the money available to buy new accounts for bots.

When you let the RMT have free reign for this long, it lets them become entrenched.