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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If the answer was so clear, please answer these :
    If I log out from my PS4 Heavensward account as a DRK in Ul'Dah, will I be able to log back on my ARR PC account ?
    If I have have a new flying mount, will I be able to ride it (on the ground) in older zones with my ARR account ?
    Or, what will happen if some new content is added to an existing Duty Roulette (Trials or PvP, for instance). Once I've unlocked it on my Heavensward account, will I be able to to queue in DR from my ARR account ?



    Quote Originally Posted by Chessala View Post
    Are you kidding me?
    No (DRK is HW content)
    Yes (mount is not tied to HW and as long as you stay in old zones, np)
    No (DURR! New roulette belongs to HW)

    No-brainer. Anything else or can I go back to work now?
    1. Yes, you should be able to log back in as DRK in ULDAH on your ARR PC account. You just won't be able to enter any Heavensward areas which likely will include NPC's and zones your DRK would need to access for job quests etc. But since you unlocked the job and are in fact, standing in an ARR related zone...and since our characters must have a weapon equipped at all times, and since you can actually play as a DRK in old ARR zones, you will be able to access any pre-3.0 content on DRK on your PC ARR account.



    2. No, you will not be able to FLY it in ARR zones (regardless of which platform/account you log into btw) as the only zones slated to allow FLYING are the Heavensward zones. Still, you will have the mount in your inventory...and if you can use them w/o flying them, then you likely will be able to ride it (but not fly it) in ARR zones. Although, it is also likely that the flying mounts will be 'greyed out' when you are in ARR zones and only usable when in zones/areas which permit flying (ala Heavensward). Although outside of SE saying 'flying mounts will only fly in the new zones', we don't know much about how these mounts will work/if they will work in ARR zones (again with or without being on a Heavensward acct).

    3. Duty Roulette: This is a toughy but I'm thinking it's going to require you to be on your Heavensward account to do *if* you have a heavensward account. Meaning Once you unlock the content and it is in your Duty Roulette, you will only have access to your Duty Roulettes if on a compatible account. If however, you NEVER use/aquire a heavensward acct, then likely you will still have access to the 'pre 3.0 Duty Roulettes' only. Also, SE might make it so all pre 3.0 content is in it's own seperate Roulettes, so the only Roulettes you would not have access to if not playing on your Heavensward acct are the ones tied to 3.0+. ...or they might do a mix of these options. (Again, 3.0 Daily Roulette's haven't really been explained yet...but since level cap raises in 3.0, it is likely that 3.0 roulettes overall do not get mixed in with ARR roulettes...at least not all of them).

    So in the Roulette world what is likely to happen:

    If you have Heavensward on your PS4 and not your PC, and are currently playing on your PC:
    You'll likely have access to these Duty Roulettes:
    1. Low-level
    2. Level 50 dungeons (once you unlock them)
    3. Levequests

    Why? because these are likely to ONLY contain pre-3.0 content and therefore would share no baring on Heavensward. Basically like how it works now where your low-level DR is unlocked and accessible as you level, but your Primal Roulette doesn't unlock until you finish the story/do said primals once.

    And potentially might have access to
    1. Primal Roulette (50 capped) -This is IF they cap the current primal roulette and start a new one +50.

    Likely won't have access to:
    1. Expert Roulette (these dungeons will likely be 'new' and level 50+ and therefore, not ARR content)
    2. Frontlines
    3. Any Heavensward-tied/tiered content. (So if even 1 dungeon/duty in the mix is from heavensward you won't have access....A la Hildebrand quests fing up your Primal Queues in this version)

    What I'm basing my answers on: Recent SE interviews and dev statements/ how the gameplay works.
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  2. #42
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    You guys realize there was no such thing as PSN back then right? I'm 1000% sure it would have been the same now if it wasn't for the deal SE has with Sony.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    If the answer was so clear, please answer these :
    If I log out from my PS4 Heavensward account as a DRK in Ul'Dah, will I be able to log back on my ARR PC account ?
    If I have have a new flying mount, will I be able to ride it (on the ground) in older zones with my ARR account ?
    Or, what will happen if some new content is added to an existing Duty Roulette (Trials or PvP, for instance). Once I've unlocked it on my Heavensward account, will I be able to to queue in DR from my ARR account ?
    I already explained how that is gonna work. As for the duties, you can't queue for them if the current platform doesn't have Heavensward installed. It really is that simple.

    For flying Mounts, I assume it would be a pet action to enable or disable flying. I can't see how a Heavensward area be any different from a ARR zone other than how they look.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post


    I already explained how that is gonna work. As for the duties, you can't queue for them if the current platform doesn't have Heavensward installed. It really is that simple.
    Actually it is NOT that simple. I could do FFXI content without having the latest expansion so long as that content was part of the game/expansion I DID have. So again, it likely depends on the specific Duty/ Duty Roulette. Any roulette tied to Heavesward? Likely you cannot access without a Heavensward account. But any duty roulette only consisting of ARR content, will likely be accessible without a Heavensward acct/not on a heavensward acct provided that you meet the other requirements of the duty.

    Also, it is unlikely that every Duty Roulette will be tied to heavensward content. So basically, some but not all roulettes might be effected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Actually it is NOT that simple. I could do FFXI content without having the latest expansion so long as that content was part of the game/expansion I DID have.
    I never said you can't do pre 3.0 stuff but ok. I think people miss the point on purpose now... SE will add a new Duty Roulette for Heavensward. Done. Unless SE wants to go the mean route, (that would make me lol) is add the duties to the current Roulette. So I still stand by what I say. I mean after awhile, if don't have the expansion, why are you still playing the game? >_<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chessala View Post
    Are you kidding me?
    No (DRK is HW content)
    No (can't use mounts in 2.x, I stand corrected there )
    No (DURR! New roulette belongs to HW)
    The answer from Live Letter only said "Be sure to log in an ARR zone" not "Be sure to log out in an ARR zone with an ARR job and pay attention to buy only ARR stuff from Market Boards in ARR citys to equip your ARR jobs"
    And don't worry, old ARR dungeons will only drops ARR jobs stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    SE will add a new Duty Roulette for Heavensward. Done.
    How can you both be so sure about the roulette ?

    Expert dungeons where pushed back into High Level roulette for several patches. And, there's nothing saying that there won't be any new content below level 50. I seriously doubt the older zones will be totally forgotten. And I also suppose we'll have new quests (Like the Relic 3.0, for example) asking you to revisit old content (For keeping them alive)...so, can the quest "advance" in an ARR account as long as the steps don't take place in newer zones ?

    Or what about new PvP rules ? Will it be HW only content, will it be added to the existing roulette ?

    You keep saying the situation was clear from the start yet all the informations you provide are just speculations.
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    Heavensward is meant for 50 to 60 players. SE might be nice and add little quests for 1 to 50 but honestly, just doing the story gets you to 50. There are plenty of ways to get to 50. That's like the only thing I agree with. Revisiting old zones for relic and wuest to once again force everyone to help the low levels to complete dungeons. I'm ok with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    Heavensward is meant for 50 to 60 players. SE might be nice and add little quests for 1 to 50 but honestly, just doing the story gets you to 50.
    Just doing the story got you to 50 on an existing job.
    New zones are meant for 51+ players.

    I doubt new jobs will start at 51 so there will likely be quests for lesser level.
    And we're not even sure that the new jobs will be unlocked on the new zones, because it would require people to already have a lvl 50 just to unlock it.

    Ishgard is part on the main scenario, sure but the new jobs ? Yugiri was part of the main scenario, look what they did with Ninja.

    One more question, if I create an Au Ra on my HW account...? Yes, you know the drill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chessala View Post
    Are you kidding me?
    No (DRK is HW content)
    No (can't use mounts in 2.x, I stand corrected there )
    No (DURR! New roulette belongs to HW)

    Anything else or can I go back to work now?

    Anyhow, what do these questions have to do with your original post? That you will have to buy the expansion more than once if you use multiple platforms was VERY clear
    You're really rude like this or you just appreciate the attention?
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    While we can't guarantee that a /facepalm emote will be implemented, we will continue to add emotes as we go!

    They DID IT! <3

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    So much confusion over a simple concept. If you try to play on a system where you do not have a registered key on your account for that content/system then you can't play. This isn't like xi at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chessala View Post
    Are you kidding me?
    No (DRK is HW content)
    No (can't use mounts in 2.x, I stand corrected there )
    No (DURR! New roulette belongs to HW)
    As others have mentioned, these answers are NOT implied by what SE has told us. It's actually much simpler than this.

    If you log in on ARR without HW installed, you cannot access HW areas.

    That's pretty much it. Any equipment you've obtained in HW? Still usable in ARR. Any jobs you've unlocked in HW? Still usable in ARR. Any mounts you've acquired in ARR? Still usable in ARR - but since you can't fly in ARR areas, will be land-bound. You're an Au Ra? You can still exist in ARR.

    You need HW to ACCESS these things. You won't be able to unlock the new jobs, or obtain the new equipment unless you have HW because you need to go into the new areas to get them. You won't be able to create an Au Ra unless you have HW. Once you HAVE them, though, you can use them anywhere, whether or not the platform you play on has HW installed.

    This was how SE played it in FFXI. It was a good system, and I doubt they'd change it up for FFXIV.
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