What other MMO has done this, and why does SE think it's a good idea?

[Fenral]

In his interview with Famitsu at PAX East (one of the sections nobody thought was worth translating), Yoshida said he was expecting a lot of new players to join when the expansion hit, and because of that he planned this first expansion with the goal of having higher-level players helping new players through content. Before people cry to the heavens about gating, again, I'm pretty sure he just means there will be new incentives to go back to those old dungeons and trials. He also said nothing about this being the pattern for all future expansions.

At the very least, I think anyone going into the expansion expecting to never run a single piece of "old" content again is going to be seriously disappointed. Just because, no, precisely because it happened with other MMOs, you can expect them to be actively considering how to keep old stuff alive alongside the new.

[Jinko]

As an existing player it makes sense that the story continue but if I came in as a new player and someone told me I had to play through all of the old stuff that no one is doing before I can start the current stuff I'm going to be less inclined to even try the game out. I don't think most people would like to be stuck perpetually playing catch up which is what is bound to happen to newer players as the number of expansions increases.

This is very true, however I doubt it will be as bad as all that, this dev team have made a point of keeping old content revelent with roulettes so I doubt new players will have a problem completing old content.

The thought of having to do all that story content though makes me head spin, I don't envy new players, especially as much of it is running and teleporting around like a idiot on a fools mission.

[Felis]

the difficulty TO craft may change, but the materials aren't going to get any more common than they are.

lv51+ gathering nodes
grand company shop
random npc shop somewhere in nowhere

[Evangela]

Can I read what TC said? he must said something terrible if he made FFXIV community angry.

[hobostew]

This is very true, however I doubt it will be as bad as all that, this dev team have made a point of keeping old content revelent with roulettes so I doubt new players will have a problem completing old content.

The thought of having to do all that story content though makes me head spin, I don't envy new players, especially as much of it is running and teleporting around like a idiot on a fools mission.

I'm sure the roulettes will help but I feel the problem is as much about perception as it is about being able to get through the content.

I also think people forget how obnoxious it is to start the gear grind as a fresh 50 to reach all of those duty requirements. Hopefully they'll add some gear vendors like WoW did!

EDIT: Woah, hadn't noticed the edited OP. Sometimes this community can be downright disappointing.

[Luvbunny]

As long as they make the rewards from those roulette pretty rewarding, people will still do the older dungeons and 2.0 main scenarios. A good way to revive all older contents is to add "new" crafting materials there, or revamping the reward from weekly Crystal Tower. They probably create another "book trials" on the 3.0 relic weapon that forces players to redo a lot of the older dungeons, AGAIN. Adding weekly tokens for completing X amount - insert older contents here - would ensure 2.0 contents still being played.

[Snugglebutt]

Can I read what TC said? he must said something terrible if he made FFXIV community angry.

I doubt anyone is actually angry, if someone is actually angry about this then they need better emotional self control. Most people in this thread seem to have popped in to leave a message saying they agree with what SE is doing while some prefer it was done differently and none have posted anything angry in this thread about the subject itself. However what SE is doing is inline with what this game has done from the beginning and that is locking content and features behind story progression. Few people seem to have gone down the path of being a bit melodramatic about the impact of this story quest restriction but time will show that there is no need to worry about new players catching up or running older content. They should just wait and see how it turns out before they grab their torches and pitchforks.

I have had a new player friend join the game just today and they enjoy this sort of game aka one that is a heavily rich story driven MMO/game, so all this new story content they will have to go through would not in any way put them off, they like it more because of it. This game is not candy crush or flappy birds, it is a story driven MMO and as with most MMO's it is a heavy time sink...that time sink causing people to subscribe is what makes this game most of it's money. The fact that the time sink is quite so related to story progression instead of just generic grind of fates/dungeons and leves for new players/characters is a bonus for most people. In the end SE has from the offset gated content and features behind story progression in this game, they are merely continuing that tradition with the expansion of which myself and a lot of my friends and people who have posted in this thread appreciate.

[AlexionSkylark]

What other MMO has done this?

World of Warcraft.
End of story.

[Stormrider]

Can I read what TC said? he must said something terrible if he made FFXIV community angry.

There was nothing worng with the original post. It was poorly worded. I believe he was getting harassed on our server. Because none of the posts in this thread are very bad. I have seen some conversations in shout go south very fast when older players feel thier entitlement is being infringed upon. It would only take a couple to make a day miserable. I say if anyone sends a tell copy and paste links from urban dictionary in a reply