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    I have problems soloing certain r40 leves now that were nowhere near as difficult before.

    Since the changes to leves, all of the defend-this-spot type of leves have become broken, or at least so it feels. The waves spawn way too closely to each other, and sometimes there is no pause at all between them. The bomb and ahriman one is particularly impossible now, as a wave of 2 bombs and a wave of 3 ahriman always spawn at the same time.

    I dunno many who could survive that alone - I sure can't. And if you happen to be of a rank multiple 5, its game over.

    Also, these mobs will not return to their territory either if you try to run (in hopes of being able to pick them off after they settle) they will chase you to the end of the Eorzea it seems. This I know from experience, having been chased from where they spawned nearly all the way back to the camp before they finally did me in.

    This was me at GLA43 doing the leve at 1 star. Other leves are much more challenging now due to the hike in mp costs, but the most of the defense leves with boss types are nigh impossible now. And the ones that are defense till the time run out are extremely difficult as well.

    The cliff yarzon one for example, if you don't destroy them fast enough you will end up with 5 or 6 on you (and sometimes they aren't grouped at all for some reason, so you lose sp if you try to aoe them to death). Very difficult odds for a solo player with the mp costs what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chione View Post
    I have problems soloing certain r40 leves now that were nowhere near as difficult before.

    Since the changes to leves, all of the defend-this-spot type of leves have become broken, or at least so it feels. The waves spawn way too closely to each other, and sometimes there is no pause at all between them. The bomb and ahriman one is particularly impossible now, as a wave of 2 bombs and a wave of 3 ahriman always spawn at the same time.

    I dunno many who could survive that alone - I sure can't. And if you happen to be of a rank multiple 5, its game over.

    Also, these mobs will not return to their territory either if you try to run (in hopes of being able to pick them off after they settle) they will chase you to the end of the Eorzea it seems. This I know from experience, having been chased from where they spawned nearly all the way back to the camp before they finally did me in.

    This was me at GLA43 doing the leve at 1 star. Other leves are much more challenging now due to the hike in mp costs, but the most of the defense leves with boss types are nigh impossible now. And the ones that are defense till the time run out are extremely difficult as well.

    The cliff yarzon one for example, if you don't destroy them fast enough you will end up with 5 or 6 on you (and sometimes they aren't grouped at all for some reason, so you lose sp if you try to aoe them to death). Very difficult odds for a solo player with the mp costs what they are.
    I just soloed one of the bomb + ahriman leves (at Bald Knoll) last night as a 36 PUG - I did die a couple of times and I did have to zone to move the mobs away from the yarzons, but I was able to complete the leve. I do not have any mage classes leveled, so no cure - just my own healing wind and bloodbath equipped. I did not have trouble getting them to stop following me however. I wonder if you ran into a glitch? I found it a challenge due to my rank, but not impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deminia View Post
    I just soloed one of the bomb + ahriman leves (at Bald Knoll) last night as a 36 PUG - I did die a couple of times and I did have to zone to move the mobs away from the yarzons, but I was able to complete the leve. I do not have any mage classes leveled, so no cure - just my own healing wind and bloodbath equipped. I did not have trouble getting them to stop following me however. I wonder if you ran into a glitch? I found it a challenge due to my rank, but not impossible.
    Its that whole dying part that tends to bother me.

    I can succeed on the leve, but I likewise end up getting KO'd and then come back and peel off the critters one group at a time. But that doesn't sound like much of a plan to me, especially not with the damage gear suffers now, and it's not something I consider soloable if I have to die to win.

    As for the following part, I haven't had to run from the spiders, but I tried running from the ahriman and the bombs and they just kept on chasing me. Otherwise I'd be able to shake them off instead of dying, and then peel off the groups one by one.

    But I've done this leve before the patch, and those two waves in particular (bombs and then ahrimans) had enough of a break between them before to defeat the bombs before the 3 eyes show up. Now there's hardly a pause (if any at all). Sometimes I can manage to take one of the bombs out before the ahriman actually get to me, but it doesn't help.

    All other r40 leves I can do easily at 3 stars on my own. But this one? Not so. I don't count dying as a success. ^^; Especially since I don't have armorer leveled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chione View Post
    Its that whole dying part that tends to bother me.

    I can succeed on the leve, but I likewise end up getting KO'd and then come back and peel off the critters one group at a time. But that doesn't sound like much of a plan to me, especially not with the damage gear suffers now, and it's not something I consider soloable if I have to die to win.

    As for the following part, I haven't had to run from the spiders, but I tried running from the ahriman and the bombs and they just kept on chasing me. Otherwise I'd be able to shake them off instead of dying, and then peel off the groups one by one.

    But I've done this leve before the patch, and those two waves in particular (bombs and then ahrimans) had enough of a break between them before to defeat the bombs before the 3 eyes show up. Now there's hardly a pause (if any at all). Sometimes I can manage to take one of the bombs out before the ahriman actually get to me, but it doesn't help.

    All other r40 leves I can do easily at 3 stars on my own. But this one? Not so. I don't count dying as a success. ^^; Especially since I don't have armorer leveled.
    If I had also been rank43+ running the same leve on 1* I would not expect to die. However, I was r36 and fully anticipated a possible death when I had to deal with three r45 ahriman, 2 r45 bombs and several r43 yarzon all on me at the same time.

    If you were unable to release aggro by running away, then it might have been a glitch, otherwise the leve isn't broken - using the strategy of running to pull the levequest mobs out of the aggro mob area until they all lose aggro, then coming back and dealing with just the levequest mobs works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deminia View Post
    If I had also been rank43+ running the same leve on 1* I would not expect to die. However, I was r36 and fully anticipated a possible death when I had to deal with three r45 ahriman, 2 r45 bombs and several r43 yarzon all on me at the same time.

    If you were unable to release aggro by running away, then it might have been a glitch, otherwise the leve isn't broken - using the strategy of running to pull the levequest mobs out of the aggro mob area until they all lose aggro, then coming back and dealing with just the levequest mobs works.
    I think this leve in particular is more trouble than its worth at the moment. I don't mind a challenge, but this is just silliness. The last time I did this one, I had the leve destination spawn in the valley I believe you're talking about, where the yarzons and elementals are. I tried to outrun them again and had a lovely train of critters behind me, most of which turned back. But the ahriman (ahrimen?) and bombs kept on trucking.

    This time when I came back towards the defense spot after my glorious KO, I realized that the bomb and ahrimans hadn't returned to the defense area. So. I stood there and waited out the timer. They eventually made it back, but the timer ran out before they could unleash their fury upon me again. So, whether I didn't run far enough, or whether I am experiencing a glitch I dunno - the critters chased me far enough that it took them a good deal of time to get back. (I believe they only started moving back when I entered the area again. I can't be sure of that though, as they weren't on my radar. Either way, quite a distance!)

    The rewards of this leve just aren't worth the time and trouble to me now, considering I can do other leves much quicker and at higher stars. So, I think my winning strategy will be... not to accept this leve anymore. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chione View Post
    I have problems soloing certain r40 leves now that were nowhere near as difficult before.

    Since the changes to leves, all of the defend-this-spot type of leves have become broken, or at least so it feels. The waves spawn way too closely to each other, and sometimes there is no pause at all between them. The bomb and ahriman one is particularly impossible now, as a wave of 2 bombs and a wave of 3 ahriman always spawn at the same time.

    I dunno many who could survive that alone - I sure can't. And if you happen to be of a rank multiple 5, its game over.

    Also, these mobs will not return to their territory either if you try to run (in hopes of being able to pick them off after they settle) they will chase you to the end of the Eorzea it seems. This I know from experience, having been chased from where they spawned nearly all the way back to the camp before they finally did me in.

    This was me at GLA43 doing the leve at 1 star. Other leves are much more challenging now due to the hike in mp costs, but the most of the defense leves with boss types are nigh impossible now. And the ones that are defense till the time run out are extremely difficult as well.

    The cliff yarzon one for example, if you don't destroy them fast enough you will end up with 5 or 6 on you (and sometimes they aren't grouped at all for some reason, so you lose sp if you try to aoe them to death). Very difficult odds for a solo player with the mp costs what they are.
    SE did it because we tell them the defend leves are boring and the times between the waves are too long.
    How you can make them now without the monsters overrun you? With each wave, run away from the spot. The defender timer stop and you can kill the current wave without to be afraid that the next wave is coming to early. The time between the waves are ~ 30 seconds.
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    Last edited by Felis; 08-10-2011 at 04:54 PM.