What other MMO has done this, and why does SE think it's a good idea?

[Elmeron]

Elmeron, it's a Final fantasy game, this is story focused all the way and feels like the old Final fantasy titles. Doing a mini story to get something is totally acceptable with final fantasy games. Should have expected it. I can't imagine how you didn't finish the story missions, they were very easy to complete.

Did you not read? I did complete most of it. I wouldn't be i80 if I hadn't. You do realize that there is a ton of main quests still left after the base game and credits are finished rolling, right? At the same time I have dungeons to do, and I also just got done leveling THM to 26 so I could have swiftcast for my SCH, and next I have to level CONJ to 36 to get stoneskin (at least I already leveled CONJ to 15 because I needed protect), not to mention trying to earn enough gil for a house before the expansion, since I worry that prices will skyrocket once the expansion goes live.

[Sapphic]

I have to level CONJ to 36 to get stoneskin (at least I already leveled CONJ to 15 because I needed protect), not to mention trying to earn enough gil for a house before the expansion, since I worry that prices will skyrocket once the expansion goes live.

Don't worry too much about stoneskin on SCH, in 4 peeps, not needed at all, Adlo is more effective and more mana efficient. SCH stoneskin is the same sterngth as PLD one, 10%, In 8 person content, The WHM will be covering Stoneskin at the start, as theirs is 18%.

I pretty much never use stoneskin on SCH, even in Final coil.

[kyuven]

Did you not read? I did complete most of it. I wouldn't be i80 if I hadn't. You do realize that there is a ton of main quests still left after the base game and credits are finished rolling, right? At the same time I have dungeons to do, and I also just got done leveling THM to 26 so I could have swiftcast for my SCH, and next I have to level CONJ to 36 to get stoneskin (at least I already leveled CONJ to 15 because I needed protect), not to mention trying to earn enough gil for a house before the expansion, since I worry that prices will skyrocket once the expansion goes live.

Welcome to being in an MMO. Grinds are normal. You have many, many more to come.

i don't understand why people are surprised by this. The game's lore specifically says Ishgard is and has been closed off to outsiders for quite a while. The story explains why we're able to go there.

[ViiLavender]

I would say it's pretty normal for an MMO to lock the expansion content off, otherwise you would have no idea (lore-wise) why you're going to the areas in the first place.

Also take into account what FFXIV bars behind the story already, such as not being able to get your Chocobo mount up until you choose your company.

[Elmeron]

Welcome to being in an MMO. Grinds are normal. You have many, many more to come.

i don't understand why people are surprised by this. The game's lore specifically says Ishgard is and has been closed off to outsiders for quite a while. The story explains why we're able to go there.

I didn't even comment on Ishgard, and I get that grind is normal in an MMO. What isn't normal is the weird forcing of people to level classes outside of the one that they chose to roll as their main. No other MMO does that. It's not really a huge deal or anything, just a bit annoying, since I had zero plans to ever even bother with THM prior to being told I had to level it to get a skill that is basically required for endgame content.

[kyuven]

I didn't even comment on Ishgard, and I get that grind is normal in an MMO. What isn't normal is the weird forcing of people to level classes outside of the one that they chose to role as their main. No other MMO does that. It's not really a huge deal or anything, just a bit annoying, since I had zero plans to ever even bother with THM prior to being told I had to level it to get a skill that is basically required for endgame content.

You're in no way forced to do this. Everything is tested to be possible without all of the crossclass abilities. It's only the player insistence upon it that makes it "necessary"
For example, you CAN do coil without swiftcast...but it's a lot harder (though for t10 it's probably better that way...)
Also ishgard is where the expansion takes place. That is why the new expansion content is (literally in this case) gated.

[Chihaya]

What isn't normal is the weird forcing of people to level classes outside of the one that they chose to roll as their main. No other MMO does that.

Yea well "most" MMOs locks you in 1 class/1 character.

The MMOs that allow you to have multiple class per character such as FFXI/FFXIV/PSO2 have cross class/subjob system that adds further improvements to your main class, which requires you to level other classes.

[Elmeron]

Yea well "most" MMOs locks you in 1 class/1 character.

The MMOs that allow you to have multiple class per character such as FFXI/FFXIV/PSO2 have cross class/subjob system that adds further improvements to your main class, which requires you to level other classes.

It should be an option though. Not everyone is an alt/classholic. And to the person who said you "don't have to...," are you joking? Yes, you do have to. Try resurrecting dead people with that long ass cast time in one of the really hard endgame duties... Yah, good luck with that!