The Ultimate Black Mage Resources with Damage Calculator

[Aikaal]

Spell Speed is the way to go in single target. But if you want to know how much spell speed affects AoE. Go to Coerthas on those 2 dummies and do a AoE rotation with 680 spell speed and 560 spell speed. There,s no difference lol. On the other hand, the int + crit + det will increase it.

[KroLeXz]

but no fight is 100% aoe - at most a fight might add currently 10 ro 15% of the fight is aoe - and I think I'm still wrong and its lower.

[Sleigh]

but no fight is 100% aoe - at most a fight might add currently 10 ro 15% of the fight is aoe - and I think I'm still wrong and its lower.

It's not about how much of the fight is AoE, it's about how much of your damage total is going to be from Flares and F2.

In my most recent T10, 103 DPS out of 580 was from Flares. That's roughly 18% that is basically independent of SS, as well as about 40 DPS from Thunder spells of sorts, also largely free from SS except for Thundercloud hits.

Argue what you want about the other 75% of my damage being more impacted by crit or SS or DET, but that damage right there is CHR and DET central. The same thing applies to T12 and 13 in varying amounts.

[Aikaal]

Correct, this is why I keep my spell speed high. This is also why I just don't sacrifice my Intelligence for extra off-stats. I just feel my build is the best around. Then again, if you want to build the true BiS for each turn, you'd have to craft and meld for each turns. The reason is simply, 515 Accuracy is T10 means you are wasting 45 off-stats. This is not the true BiS for that turn.

This is something also I wanted to add and I mentioned it on my video. We only have a T13 BiS. For example, that T13 BiS might have a Platinum Scarf of Casting with 18 Accuracy.


Let's take this set for example, Ceveth's build
530.3 515 Acc
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PYH4

This set can easily be OK with T11 since you can swap Dreadwyrm Robe of Casting to Augmented Ironwork Doublet of Casting.

What about T13 now? The accuracy cap is 503. This set is not the best. You can get better.

based on that set, you could get yourself a new Platinum Bangles of Casting and swap one of the Acc IV materias to Det IV materia and you get this set:
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q12M

You don't need a calculator to know that 6 extra Det is better for T12. I am not a fan and I don't think much people would be a fan to craft turn based crafted for BiS lol.

[Ceveth]

It's not about how much of the fight is AoE, it's about how much of your damage total is going to be from Flares and F2.

In my most recent T10, 103 DPS out of 580 was from Flares. That's roughly 18% that is basically independent of SS, as well as about 40 DPS from Thunder spells of sorts, also largely free from SS except for Thundercloud hits.

Argue what you want about the other 75% of my damage being more impacted by crit or SS or DET, but that damage right there is CHR and DET central. The same thing applies to T12 and 13 in varying amounts.

Very, very good points.

But that's another reason why crafted gear is so very, very good. Not only do you gain massive amounts of spell speed for the single-target portions of the fight you also lose very, very little actual base damage. As I mentioned before you only lose 10~ Int in raw damage, whereas you even gain crit which is (I'm assuming) your highest weighted stat in an AoE phase. Also as I mentioned before whether this loss of Int is better or worse than the gained spell speed is directly dependent on the duration of AoE phases in an encounter.

[Ceveth]

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Also true, the set I provided was specifically for T13. Dropping Accuracy for specific turns is a lot more expensive to do with crafted gear.

[Beliel]

My only concern in this discussion, is to believe BLM BiS is a 7 crafted piece set. Im not even arguing who pulls the biggest numbers, SS vs det or crit on AOE, Or if you should favor one over the other for a specific fight, i just find hard to believe the BiS is a 7 crafted set. In my opinon there is too much of main stat loss.

[Aikaal]

Also true, the set I provided was specifically for T13. Dropping Accuracy for specific turns is a lot more expensive to do with crafted gear.

Yeah... and most players won,t have the funds to invest for that. When I made this sheet and this video, I knew I was gonna get pointed at about the crafted stuff. I figured when I was requested that I,d make the sets the most gils friendly possible. I also have a page for no Dreadwyrm piece for new BLMs going into FCoB. In all honestly... BiS in my opinion is based on the player's preference xD

I do extremely well in FCoB with no crafted and I'm happy with it

[Dervy]

Also true, the set I provided was specifically for T13. Dropping Accuracy for specific turns is a lot more expensive to do with crafted gear.

Shouldn't it be cheaper?

I mean as far as itemisation goes, you need less accuracy and the reason why Crafted gear is so phenomenal is because it provides a balance between CRT + SS + ACC, whilst also providing equivalent raw INT gains. When you don't need the accuracy as much, it becomes a wasted slot on crafted pieces. For example, Crafted Accessories. There's nothing else you can replace that accuracy with, other than a gain of +1 in CRT/DET/SS. That's now a wasted slot and in turn, makes it better off to use i130 accessories instead, thus, cheaper.

Unless you're now replacing those Accuracy gains with Piety... I dunno how well that would work for BLMs however in terms of Raw INT/DPS gains.

[Ceveth]

Shouldn't it be cheaper?

I mean as far as itemisation goes, you need less accuracy and the reason why Crafted gear is so phenomenal is because it provides a balance between CRT + SS + ACC, whilst also providing equivalent raw INT gains. When you don't need the accuracy as much, it becomes a wasted slot on crafted pieces. For example, Crafted Accessories. There's nothing else you can replace that accuracy with, other than a gain of +1 in CRT/DET/SS. That's now a wasted slot and in turn, makes it better off to use i130 accessories instead, thus, cheaper.

Unless you're now replacing those Accuracy gains with Piety... I dunno how well that would work for BLMs however in terms of Raw INT/DPS gains.

Ah no I simply meant having to have different peices of crafted gear melded differently to be optimal for each turn, not the price of needing less pieces of crafted gear for different turns.

For example if you need seven specific peices for T13 along with five, different specific pieces for T12 then you're melding a total of 12 peices which is an absolutely monsterous price-tag compared to simply using only Dreadwyrm gear.