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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    Well to be fait the skeleton quest in Horizon is hard even on solo level. Altho at your level you should be able to do 2 stars.

    You are an archer but did you level ccon or thm to get at least the level 1 cure or sacrifice to help healing yourself? It's like level 8 I think so it takes about 30min to get it.

    Aside from that, try to bind one of the targets when they come in pair and focus on one.
    Yeah, that leve was kinda brutal. But I was able to pull off whichever difficulty had rank 25 skeletons duos as a rank 18-19 gladiator. Guard, sacrifice, stoneskin, second wind, rampart, and shockspikes allowed me to barely survive, though.

    But you know what still sucks? 1000 needles from a rank 20 cactaur... Why the hell is this ability still being used by low rank cactaurs? The leve requested me to kill 10 of them, and the last 3 attacked as a group. Surely one of them was going to bust out the needles.
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  2. #12
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    Hikozaemon Kenkonken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armok View Post
    I'm a 26 rank Archer.

    I can't level in the 25 dungeon, because on my server, it's impossible to find a party of people the same level. It's always higher end characters running, with people my level joining in. (so exp is pointless.)

    So the only way that seems the proper way of leveling is to do Leves... here comes my problem.

    I'm doing Rank 20 levels, on solo and they just woop my backside. I did one where I have to kill these skeleton things, and you always have to fight too. Impossible for me to stay alive, even with cure.

    Isn't one point of leve's, is that you can solo them if needed?

    Problem is thats a significantly harder leve than the average ones and skeletons in general arnt easy to deal w/ unless you got practice they hit hard drain hp to heal themselves etc... Also all leves are not balanced for every class and sometimes you do a leve and get your ass handed to you becauseyo u are not aware of what to expect. Ie... last night i did a bearded rock leve where i waited in a circle for mobs to attack me. First 2 bombs popped and ran towards me i easily killed them. Then 1min later 6 mobs pop right on top of me and proceed to hand my ass to me on a platter. Thanks for the Durability loss SE. I had to return wait to unweaken buff up and luckily theyre was 2 groups of mobs and i easily handled them. Always make sure you got shock spikes/ AOE attacks etc equipped when doing leves and SAC2 or CURE2 at least. Also dont be afaird to run like a bitch and recouperate if you think you cant handle what you got yerself into lol.

    And dungeons are not a viable means of lvling anyways at your lvl you can take 4 people and head to nanwa mines and get 20k+ a hour on puks.
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    Last edited by Hikozaemon; 08-10-2011 at 03:36 AM.

  3. #13
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    Almalexia Nerevar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryndael View Post
    Then you're doing something wayyy wrong. Are you throwing arrows or rocks?
    Haha...very funny...

    Op,

    As my husband and I duo...what helps us with those are a combo or his mrder skills and my Con and thm skills...I'm usually buffing with pro and shell, I have sac II and Cure II also I use Stone skin and shock spikes as well. He uses his thm skills to debuff and then I nuke and cast cure when needed.

    That is our strat. I hope those helps :/ Sorry you are having such a hard time on those...

    Question though...if SE is trying to make the leves for soloers...why don't they instead of making the monsters com in pairs...just split them up and double up the exp as if it were two mobs? IDK...just makes more sense from someone who played XI...
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    Boye Fran
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    I wouldn't let it bother you too much, although, I do think the difficulty should be lowered on it. With players who were starting out, that leve was always difficult and most players wouldn't start it without some back up.

    Honestly, it's the difference between a player who started at launch and one who started later. A player with L50 physical can hit softcap in several different attributes at R24/25 that another player can't when their physical matches their rank level. This is the part that most players find unfair when starting out and trying these difficult leves on their own.

    For now, I'd do what was suggested already in the thread. Try to recruit some back up for this leve specifically.
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    Last edited by BruceyBruceyBangBang; 08-10-2011 at 03:41 AM.

  5. #15
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    Rand Al'thor
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidSquirrel View Post
    Yeah, that leve was kinda brutal. But I was able to pull off whichever difficulty had rank 25 skeletons duos as a rank 18-19 gladiator. Guard, sacrifice, stoneskin, second wind, rampart, and shockspikes allowed me to barely survive, though.

    But you know what still sucks? 1000 needles from a rank 20 cactaur... Why the hell is this ability still being used by low rank cactaurs? The leve requested me to kill 10 of them, and the last 3 attacked as a group. Surely one of them was going to bust out the needles.
    hehe see? me it's the other way around, as a CON I had a lot of trouble with the skeletons on solo difficulty when I was level 18-20 but the cactuars were easy bait. They would die quickly from magic and not gain enough tp for their needles.
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    Deceptistar Meow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armok View Post
    I'm a 26 rank Archer.

    I can't level in the 25 dungeon, because on my server, it's impossible to find a party of people the same level. It's always higher end characters running, with people my level joining in. (so exp is pointless.)

    So the only way that seems the proper way of leveling is to do Leves... here comes my problem.

    I'm doing Rank 20 levels, on solo and they just woop my backside. I did one where I have to kill these skeleton things, and you always have to fight too. Impossible for me to stay alive, even with cure.

    Isn't one point of leve's, is that you can solo them if needed?
    Some of the leves are just plain hard, you just have to find them out with trial and error.
    Such is the skeleton leve at horizon, its just not the 'standard' starting difficulty as the other leves. Same with the cacti leve (altho if your lucky you can evade 1000 needles >.> to my surprise)
    If you do 8 leves, there are bound to be some that are a little harder than others
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  7. #17
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    Brin Zalazar
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    I would perhaps level up some other classes and pick up a few more abilities. You said you have cure, but what about protect, shell?
    I'd also check your gear, if you have high level gear, too high for your level, you're better running it with no gear (or something like that)

    Also, make sure your gear is repaired, and that you've spent your attribute points in areas that will help you survive more like VIT, and DEX. MND wouldn't hurt if you are casting cure.
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  8. #18
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    All leves are really easy honestly. People in my ls commonly solo the rank 40ish ones on 4-5 stars... most people I see complain they are way way too easy.

    People just need to figure things out more. Level more job to get sub abilities and stuff.

    In the end it might sound bad and like people are attacking you but if you are failing at leves especially ones below your level you are doing something really really wrong.

    1) You are on a hard leve at too high of a setting, Something you figure out over time.
    2) You are focusing on only 1 class, not how the game is designed to be played (every class alone is crazy gimp)
    3) You are using very low level armor so you are taking massive dmg (aka. you are like at rank 25 with only level 6 armor)
    4) You are using proper armor and weapons but they are broken (or a combination of 3 and 4 which is even worse)
    5) You have below 45-50 Vitality at a rank 26 class (aka you are lacking hp)

    Skellys are the hardest horizon leve, but at rank 26 on 1 star you should almost be able to 1-2 shot them with archer more or less. Get multishot, Use Ferocity and raging strike, aviod agroing more then 1 set at a time. If you are still failing look at your stat allocation and make sure you have stats in Vitality... that is something alot of people are making mistakes on when they are playing DDs or Mages... without vitality you have very little hp meaning soloing is near impossible.
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  9. #19
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    Livi Fi
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Personally I don't know how you die on them. Is your gear broken? Is it optimal? I play with my mule now and then and I started soloing r20s @r16 PUG.
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  10. #20
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    Deminia Brellenwind
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Bear in mind that the leves were designed to cover 10 levels. The rank 20 leves will contain various tasks that are designed to cover ranks 20-30, so naturally some of the leves will be more challenging, especially the lower your rank is in that leve category. The skeleton leve is one of the hardest, I also think the one with all of the humanoids was pretty tough my first time. If you are having a lot of trouble with it, then skip that particular leve and try it again after gaining another rank up or try to find someone to duo with you.

    Most players are able to start the next leve category up at 5 levels below the suggested minimum rank - so at 25 you should be able to start on some of the easier to complete rank 30 leves. Cedarwood, Humblehearth, and Nophica's Wells btw will be a bit easier than the other rank 30 choices in the mines, cellar, and hollow when you do switch to those.

    As others have said, make sure you cover the basics of making sure you have the correct gear/weapon/ammo for your rank. And definitely try to rank up some of the other classes as well to gain the benefit of the physical level stats as well as the use of some helpful abilities. If you hate mage classes, try Pugilist - you get Second Wind fairly early on and that is a healing spell you can use on your Archer.
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