Final coil in duty finder

[raelgun]

There's a very simple solution to that: get rid of most of the instant death mechanics.

T9 only has 1 true one shot mechanic, and thats the walls.

Meteor placements is not observing while still doing high output, being fully aware and doing your job optimal to meet the requirements is somewhat skillful in this regards.

Divebombs require some awareness and is actually quite easy to deal with, but again this mechanic only interacts with the walls. T10, T11, T12 don't have instant death mechanics.

No, the real problem is people dont know how to work together or improve their ability in general, if you are good, you can show that ability in any content.

[Mugiawara]

I don't see the problem.
It took me nearly 2 years to down T5 in DF.
Might as well put it on there, the likelyhood
of people getting it together on T9 + is slim in DF.
Gotta be damn lucky to get REEEAAALLY good people in for final.
At least you can practice a bit in DF though.

[QiLymePye]

And i think thats why people want it in duty finder. To practice. To see it and figure out how to complete. Like I have said before, its one thing to watch a video, another to actually do it. And to try and spend more time trying to put together a "learning" party than playing the game is a turn off for alot of people.

[Zeille]

And i think thats why people want it in duty finder. To practice. To see it and figure out how to complete. Like I have said before, its one thing to watch a video, another to actually do it. And to try and spend more time trying to put together a "learning" party than playing the game is a turn off for alot of people.

Pretty much this. Videos are great, but it usually takes a couple runs to feel comfortable with the pattern and timing of these fights. Who cares if success is not guaranteed? I just want to hop in real quick and get a feel for the fight with a group of randoms. Why is that not allowed?

Same deal for Ex-primals. I never liked how SE excludes them from DF when they're initially released.

Also, wanting these added to DF does not equate to wanting nerfs/echo. Two separate things. I'd like it if ALL content were DF-able when released, then after some time they can make the content easier.

[Skeith-Adeline]

If you clear T9, you must have some sort of skill... well, that's what it was like back in 2.2-2.3. People won't be as idiotic in Final Coil Dutyfinder as Second Coil as long as T9 gates it. I put up a Party Finder in Zalera (let that sink in lol) and we got to 55% in 3 tries, before stopping (took forever to fill up).

I DON'T see T12 being Duty Findable lol.

EDIT: Also, unlike the second coil, Final Coil will actually benefit from Echo. Echo in second coil is just... pointless.

[Ashkendor]

There's a very simple solution to that: get rid of most of the instant death mechanics.

I think they should just take the boss out completely and replace her with a big shiny "WIN" button in the middle of the room. You queued for the duty? Awesome! You won! You deserve something for all your effort!

[Zumi]

Looks like people got their wish Final Coil going into DF on March 31. Good luck with the random people. Personally ill do each turn once with randoms to see how random people handle final coil.

[GiseleValkyrie]

From what I seen about 90% of the playerbase does not have the skill/coordination/raid awareness/reflexes needed to complete the highest tier of endgame without nerfs/overgearing. Nothing besides nerfing the content will help players in the 90% beat the content. However SE has already responded to the more casual playerbase complaints by adding a normal/story mode for the for the Alexander raid in 3.0.

You see this here that I put in bold unless you are on every server you should honestly stop that.

[Tyrn]

Looks like people got their wish Final Coil going into DF on March 31. Good luck with the random people. Personally ill do each turn once with randoms to see how random people handle final coil.

It'll probably be just like BCoB and SCoB where you have to make your own group for the first 1-2 weeks after the patch, then a small patch that nerfs the hell out of 10-12 and allows queuing for randoms with increasing echo so even DF DPS might push 4 bennus after a couple weeks.

[Zumi]

You see this here that I put in bold unless you are on every server you should honestly stop that.

Some jp guy parsed load stone data for the final coil pet, it really was 10% on JP servers, and as low as 5% on NA/EU servers. The data on loadstone shows it was 5 to 10 % of the playerbase beat final coil.