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  1. #71
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    what the hell is this thread even about?

    hey guys...i did six r30 botany leves and got about 45k last night.
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    Hey! Go start your own thread, you hijacker!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scape View Post
    Hey! Go start your own thread, you hijacker!
    done. posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scape View Post
    Hey! Go start your own thread, you hijacker!
    Ugh so it was your fault that thread appeared! lol ><
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scape View Post
    Hey! Go start your own thread, you hijacker!
    I say we tar and feather him....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    So I got some guildleves to test them out after the patch. 2 in Halatali, and 2 in Broken Water. I equip 2 skills, a basic attack and an aoe. I proceed to do them all on 3 stars with guardian's aspect, and get 35k xp in less than an hour.

    That is more xp than most get in even a very good XP party, and all I had to do was use 2 skills. It posed no challenge at all, and when I tried 4 stars on the 5th I found I got less XP because of how the system rewards speed (seems imbalanced with difficulty settings). I know that XP chains will help balance this, but come on why so heavily encourage everyone regardless of whether they like to(or have to) play solo to do this?
    You seem to fail at math. Or you're just so shortsighted that you don't even realize what you're saying. You do realize you can only do one set of leves every 36 hours, right?

    Let's say you get 40k EXP out of a set of leves within one hour.

    That's an IMMEDIATE 40k/hr of EXP, while grind parties can maybe get 30k/hr. Looking at it that way, it seems like leves are overshadowing EXP/hr by a large margin, which is what you seem to be whining about.

    But you're overlooking the fact that you can only do one set of leves every 36 hours. So that changes the EFFECTIVE EXP/hr. The actual effective EXP/hr of one set of leves is 40,000/36, which equals about 1110 EXP/hr.

    Add the fact that hardcore players can do leves every reset too, and the amount of EXP/hr for a casual is nothing in comparison.

    The system is fine. You just need to get out more.
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    Souma Kisa you couldn't be more right.

    It's too often the case that people see an exclamation like "OMG I got 1 million XP in 10 minutes!, this is broken!", and then they proceed to completely ignore the basic fact as you stated that it's once every 36 hours. So while you might do all your leves in 10 minutes for Y amt of SP you're doing nothing for the other 7 hours and 50 minutes you would have been playing if say we were back in the FFXI days and you were doing an 8 hr. grind party. I see your calculation is over 36 but I'd say it didn't even need to be stretched that far to illustrate the point. 35,000/8 is 4,375 which is a minor fraction of the sustained SP/hr. that a grind group gets at the estimated 30k/hr. you pointed out.

    Perspective and context seem to be sorely lacking in all these 'Leve SP is crazy' posts.

    Leves are a nice boost to your SP every 36 hours to either supplement grinding or replace it entirely if you don't have a lot of time. There is nothing wrong with the system as it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    You seem to fail at math. Or you're just so shortsighted that you don't even realize what you're saying. You do realize you can only do one set of leves every 36 hours, right?

    Let's say you get 40k EXP out of a set of leves within one hour.

    That's an IMMEDIATE 40k/hr of EXP, while grind parties can maybe get 30k/hr. Looking at it that way, it seems like leves are overshadowing EXP/hr by a large margin, which is what you seem to be whining about.

    But you're overlooking the fact that you can only do one set of leves every 36 hours. So that changes the EFFECTIVE EXP/hr. The actual effective EXP/hr of one set of leves is 40,000/36, which equals about 1110 EXP/hr.

    Add the fact that hardcore players can do leves every reset too, and the amount of EXP/hr for a casual is nothing in comparison.

    The system is fine. You just need to get out more.
    I so LOL"d when I read this XD
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    Forum Community: SE, sp gain is too slow!

    SE: Ok! *tweaks!*

    FC: Now its too fast!

    SE: *tweaks*

    FC: Too slow!

    SE: *tweaks*

    FC: Too...

    SE: Okay seriously, just shut the @#$% up.

    FC: But...

    SE: *punch*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capita View Post
    You seem to fail at math. Or you're just so shortsighted that you don't even realize what you're saying. You do realize you can only do one set of leves every 36 hours, right?

    Let's say you get 40k EXP out of a set of leves within one hour.

    That's an IMMEDIATE 40k/hr of EXP, while grind parties can maybe get 30k/hr. Looking at it that way, it seems like leves are overshadowing EXP/hr by a large margin, which is what you seem to be whining about.

    But you're overlooking the fact that you can only do one set of leves every 36 hours. So that changes the EFFECTIVE EXP/hr. The actual effective EXP/hr of one set of leves is 40,000/36, which equals about 1110 EXP/hr.

    Add the fact that hardcore players can do leves every reset too, and the amount of EXP/hr for a casual is nothing in comparison.

    The system is fine. You just need to get out more.
    Just caught this thread. Read the OP, skipped to the end, then was getting ready to post as I was reading down the line of posts. Stopped at this one. No need to replay after this.
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