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    Ryans Tardis
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaethusXion View Post
    "First Timers" that are good at following the more experienced people without direction.

    NINs that Goad tanks in long fights... (also makes me think of another for that other thread...)
    The problem Ninjas using Goad on tanks in long fights is that the other melee will need TP as well. If a monk or dragoon doesn't have TP, they can't do their job. If a tank doesn't have TP, he has done his job well enough to not have to worry about losing hate and can do other things while he waits a few ticks for TP. You have that full MP pool, might as well use it if you don't have TP.
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    Makoto Edakumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryans View Post
    The problem Ninjas using Goad on tanks in long fights is that the other melee will need TP as well. If a monk or dragoon doesn't have TP, they can't do their job. If a tank doesn't have TP, he has done his job well enough to not have to worry about losing hate and can do other things while he waits a few ticks for TP. You have that full MP pool, might as well use it if you don't have TP.
    I've actually run into a few "worst case scenarios" where I've depleted MP & TP, SCH is twiddling thumbs and letting fairy heal from the room entrance, its bad enough I have to ask for a goad to keep TP up enough to hit my MP combo and keep myself alive with SS/cures. Rest of that run I tanked mobs on top of the healer just so I could get healed by the fairy...
    Unlike melee DDs, tanks don't have Invigorate. Do we HAVE to have goad? No, but it the above worst-case scenarios it's needed. I've also had NINs refuse to goad for no reason, where its NIN & BLM/SMN so there's no excuse. Bad NINs? Most likely, but again another of those worst case scenarios.
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