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  1. #11
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Najla View Post
    And your solution is to make others suffer through your terrible gear decisions instead? Sorry, I have a little consideration for my fellow adventurers time.
    You are suggesting killing the SB market to correct a problem that, quite frankly, only persists in the most marginalized and infrequent of cases.

    A more elegant solution would be to enforce this sort if thing via DF only, not in premades or in open-world content. Put your pitchfork down, already, and look for a logical outcome.
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  2. #12
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Character
    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Only if it doesn't effect glamors.
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  3. #13
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    HeavensSword's Avatar
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    Marik Landzaat
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    As long as I can still equip STR accessories on tanks. I like having the option to equip extra STR on my PLD when the content is easier and can use the DPS boost.
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  4. #14
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Crystal Rainbow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Just because it's best for job X doesn't mean it can't help other jobs.
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  5. #15
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    Gilraen's Avatar
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    This is bad and you should feel bad. Seriously, for tanks especially, some roles have to wear accessories from other roles. I say tanks especially because tank gear has a rather marked lack of accuracy. It's weird, too, given you have to actually hit the mobs to keep their attention. To make up for this you have to wear DD accessories if you don't want to give up tank defense. The same goes for healers that are able to DD effectively, barely any healer gear gives accuracy and you need it to land spells reliably. It really does come down to what benefits you the most. So people will wear out-of-role accessories to spiritbond. Who cares, so long as they do what they're supposed to and everything runs smoothly.
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  6. #16
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    CYoung187's Avatar
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    Colman Meridius
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 60
    lol he should feel bad? Nobody is arguing tanks using dps accessories, but there is no reason to wear a caster accessory. There are plenty of accessories that offer almost 0 benefit for certain jobs. It is certainly an overblown problem though, I personally don't think I have ever seen it happen.
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  7. #17
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    Arrik's Avatar
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    Character
    Laura Bailey
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    I think the easiest way to fix this is bringing back gear favoring certain jobs. For example, lets take the Dreadwyrm Choker of Slaying. The item would still be equip-able by all jobs, but have it favor PLD WAR MNK DRG (and probably their base classes). If one of those jobs equips the choker, it gives the full ilvl to the average ilvl calculation. If one of the jobs that isn't favored equips it, it counts as an ilvl 0 piece of gear for the average ilvl calculation only. Can still wear what you want, can still glamour it as a non-favored job, but can't cheat the average with it.
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  8. #18
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    Roll's Avatar
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    Roland Starwind
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    I didn't mean "Tanks only wear vit gear, etc." Here's the rundown on stats (not sub stats like acc, ss, etc.)

    Str=Melee dmg and dmg prevented from parry/blocks
    Dex=Ranged dmg, dmg dealth by rog/nin and parry/block rates
    Vit=Max hp
    Int=attack magic potency
    Mnd=healing magic potency
    Pie=max mp

    So for Plds, Str/Dex/Vit/Mnd/Pie is beneficial. Int is completely useless.
    I've seen a lot of new players wearing things that don't make sense like that and I'm not saying "Healer's gotta wear all mnd/pie or nothing!" Just at least not str/dex gear because even int could be beneficial like if they don't go into Cleric Stance. But str/dex on them? You know if you see Str/Dex on a healer you know something is wrong lol
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  9. #19
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    IceWing's Avatar
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    Ice Wing
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Roll View Post
    I didn't mean "Tanks only wear vit gear, etc." Here's the rundown on stats (not sub stats like acc, ss, etc.)

    Str=Melee dmg and dmg prevented from parry/blocks
    Dex=Ranged dmg, dmg dealth by rog/nin and parry/block rates
    Vit=Max hp
    Int=attack magic potency
    Mnd=healing magic potency
    Pie=max mp

    So for Plds, Str/Dex/Vit/Mnd/Pie is beneficial. Int is completely useless.
    I've seen a lot of new players wearing things that don't make sense like that and I'm not saying "Healer's gotta wear all mnd/pie or nothing!" Just at least not str/dex gear because even int could be beneficial like if they don't go into Cleric Stance. But str/dex on them? You know if you see Str/Dex on a healer you know something is wrong lol
    All jobs can parry while stupid if the boost to parry was massive, I could see a whm putting dex accessories on if it prevented them dying while taking hate off a bad tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  10. #20
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    Tyrn's Avatar
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    Tyrnia Edil
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I, for one, like my glamour pieces thank you very much, I'd rather not go back to Titan and grind every single type of earring, do mog for every type of ribbon, etc, and have to spend all my inventory space on just accessories.
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