Any easier way to get Savage Aim / Might Materia?

[Buff_Archer]

i'd have to look into how much gathering materia sells for on my server. I have miner and botanist to 50 so I could potentially do that. Crafting seems like it would cost more gil as crafting that much would eat up a lot of shards/crystals.

Actually (and you'll find this SO much faster than the approach it sounds like you have in mind)- you can do battle in Gatherer Gear/Crafter Gear out in open world or a spiritbond party, and you should end up with Crafting/Gathering materia based on gear type. That's why people get upset in some forum threads about people spiritbonding in dungeons when they show up with half their outfit as Gathering/Perception/GP gear in a dungeon run where it impacts the team's performance... but when it comes to spiritbonding out in open world, you just need to make sure you can do enough DPS/Heals etc to survive against enemies at the level of the gear you're spiritbonding, especially if joining a spiritbonding party. It's not that hard with a high level weapon and a couple of high level equipment left side pieces for your class, and the rest be gatherer/crafter gear.

That's why Urth's Fount is popular for this, you've got lvl 50 enemies there you can easily and repeatedly AOE down with a few people. HQ gear spiritbonds faster and melded gear spiritbonds faster so I equipped a HQ Raptorskin Jerkin (Lvl 48 Gatherer gear), HQ Raptorskin Rings, etc I'd crafted for this purpose into a gearset I saved as my spiritbond loadout. And I melded a LVL 1 GP + 1 materia to each of them since they're super cheap and I heard it's better to stick with materia related to the type of gear you're trying to spiritbond. It surprised me how fast my outfit spiritbonded, got several materias that sell for 150k+ each on my server for half an hour's effort when I needed some for my forager's gear.

In my case I wanted Gathering materia itself. But the reason going this way could be more time and cost effective is that there is only Gathering materia applicable to 3 different stats- GP, Perception, Gathering- but tons of outcomes are possible with DoM/DoW stats and if you don't get the CRIT/DET materia you want you'll get something worth less... or elemental materia. So it's less risky you'd be doing it for junk materia. Like the posters above said. I would compare the prices of gathering and crafting materia on your server and if one is a lot more than the other, that's the kind you want to generate.

And if you're going to spiritbond gear for materia to sell- to raise gil to buy the materia you want- who has the most money to spend? High level crafters and gatherers who have a significant need for materia to boost their stats.

[Nyalia]

Raptors for raptor sinew + leathers. it's in one of the shrouds, I think South? there's a good spot to farm Raptors in the level 35-37 range.
Or you could also farm fleece since the mobs are in similar level range.


When Urth's font is occupied, I sometimes go off to Mor Dhona and farm Hippogryphs for the hippo leathers also. Kill 2 birds with one stone so to speak.

Just be sure the enemies are 10 levels above your gear, not the same level as your gear. Same level is very slow, but 10 levels above is max speed (at least 3x as fast). More than 10 levels above becomes slow again - it's a bell curve, with the peak at +10.

[Frost_Trunks]

Thanks for all the replies! I started reading some other posts on Reddit. I am excited to try this out. Hoping it's not too overcrowded. Debating doing the tier 2 materia. It sells for about 40-50k on my server at the moment. Tier 4 is 400-500k but tier 3 is roughly about 10k. Seems like there might be less competition and more options for tier 2.

Many people have suggested Urth's gift for SB, but some others have suggested the beastmen camps because UG is usually taken. My wife and I are both lvl50 BLM so we might give this a go with our chocobos. I might push WHM to 50 just for heals and holy.

[Nyalia]

I might push WHM to 50 just for heals and holy.

WHM is my absolute favorite DPS class for SBing, even when I'm letting my choco heal and doing pure DPS. The reason? Point blank constant AoEs. Targeted AoEs, especially Flare, take a long time to cast and if the target dies, they don't go off. Or, if you wind up not facing your target, they don't go off. Things move around so much while gathering them together for the AoE that it's not uncommon for one to move out of sight just before the spell finishes. And, on top of that, enemies you aggro crowd around you and enemies stacked on top of each other slowly spread out. Targeted AoEs hit the area around the target. Enemies hitting you from the other side might be out of range.

Another random tip for SBing - put your choco into Healer Stance. That way, they won't pull aggro off of you and out of your AoEs, which gets really annoying really fast.


The ideal place to SB is a place with a heavy concentration of enemies that are 10 levels above your equipment. You want enemies that you can easily gather together for AoEs, so you need them to be close to each other. If you're doing level 30 items for tier 2 materia, you don't want to do it at Urth's Gift because the enemies are too high level. Same with beasttribe strongholds and Castrums, where the enemies tend to be 46-49. You want to find level 40 enemies. I don't know the best place, but for dense level ~40 enemies, I'd try Halfstone in Western La Noscea (especially when Sharknado is up, which is like, half the time - kill the adds, not the FATE boss), or the Ixali in North Shroud (and the Durandels/bats nearby). I wouldn't do, say, SE East Than, because the enemies are so spread out there making it hard to gather them for AoEs. Same with most parts of Coerthas. I don't think North Thanalan or the western part of Central Shroud are good either. Okay, I'm out of places I know that have level 40 enemies ^^;

[Xenosan]

Okay, I'm out of places I know that have level 40 enemies

The coblyn fates and earth elemental clusters turn-in fate at North Thanalan are cash money for SBing tier 2 materias.

There are times I can switch gear mid fate due to SB completing, and by the time the fate is over the new set is at 78%

Edit; during downtime kill mobs at the Dark Devices area

[Nyalia]

The coblyn fates and earth elemental clusters turn-in fate at North Thanalan are cash money for SBing tier 2 materias.

There are times I can switch gear mid fate due to SB completing, and by the time the fate is over the new set is at 78%

Edit; during downtime kill mobs at the Dark Devices area

Ooh, great advice, thanks! I was thinking NThan was too spread out, but I hadn't considered the monster density during FATEs.

[Theref]

Anyone know the tier iv materia chance by spirit bonding level 45-49 accessories?
Does the chance get higher on level 55 accessories?

Also, what is the min level of the mob for spiritbonding? for example I have level 45 accessories, does it spirit bond with level 35 mob?

[Gillionaire]

Anyone know the tier iv materia chance by spirit bonding level 45-49 accessories?
Does the chance get higher on level 55 accessories?

Also, what is the min level of the mob for spiritbonding? for example I have level 45 accessories, does it spirit bond with level 35 mob?

It's not an official figure, but 10% is the accepted number for i45-55. i70 is 50% and i90 is 75% I think.

[Nyalia]

Also, what is the min level of the mob for spiritbonding? for example I have level 45 accessories, does it spirit bond with level 35 mob?

Answers can be found here: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._that_we_know/
Also: http://excellence-ffxiv.enjin.com/fo...ncl-23-changes

[Frost_Trunks]

So I went and looked at the value of the crafting and gathering materia and it wasn't too bad. A few of the tier 3 materias sell for crap, like 3k each. So in a sense you are losing money since the gear is like 4.5k? I can't remember for sure. The others were reasonable, one at 160k another at 180k, a couple at 60-75k. But those were tier 4. So... I happen to remember I had a gatherer materia tier 4 from a quest and it was going for 75k. So I put it up for sale. Didn't sell, didn't sell... So After a couple days, I looked to readjust the price. Dropped 20k! Wow... This has been happening A LOT with just about everything. People undercut and the price plummets. I was farming Clusters at one point, as they go for about 1k each. I figure I get 15k every 12 minutes. Well they usually drop to about 800g and mine sit on the market. Annoying.