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  1. #131
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    This is the most feminine game I have ever played.
    You should definitely broaden your gaming experience if that is the case. Whole wide world of video games out there lol.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    You should definitely broaden your gaming experience if that is the case. Whole wide world of video games out there lol.
    I'm good, thanks anyway...
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  3. #133
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    Galdous Tansarville
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    Some people are different then others. The call of duty crowd would probably find this game a bit out of their interest.
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  4. #134
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    Jayo Oreon
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    Lol this is ridiculous. I don't see why people are taking offense to someone identifying with masculinity more than femininity. Sounds like you guys are the ones who are ''insecure''..
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  5. #135
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    TheRogueX's Avatar
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    I am not intending this thread to insult people. It is just an issue occurred where my nephews were going to play ff with me noticed the little lady's day event and looked up the outfits in the game. Now they are telling me they are not going to play the game with me because it is too girly. Are we going a bit too far in the aesthetics department of design as of late in this depiction that would cause a lot of male players not to even try this game?
    I would say your nephews have been fed far too much of the standard gender-binary cool aid. That and get their eyes checked, because this game is far from 'too girly.'

    Quote Originally Posted by Darlan_Ashwood View Post
    Lol this is ridiculous. I don't see why people are taking offense to someone identifying with masculinity more than femininity. Sounds like you guys are the ones who are ''insecure''..
    There's a difference between identifying more with masculinity than femininity and someone being macho and pretending that something even slightly feminine is obviously 'too girly' for them.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    I'm good, thanks anyway...
    Clearly...
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  7. #137
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    Tobias Shadowmane
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    The only really feminine thing I ever saw was the majority of the male miqote designs when they first appeared in 1.xx. While being very based in typical Japanese fashion/culture, in that its to cosplay/boy-toy. As if drawn out of J-pop eye candy for girls. It still needs a bit more ruggedness with the customization. Aside from that, girls day, and boys day were always a week or so set aside for each. Much like Mothers day and Fathers day is in the west. If its garments, the difference between male and female kimonos are about the same as skirts and kilts, and is a reflection of the culture that designed the game.
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  8. #138
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    Maybe you can said Shoujo.
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  9. #139
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    Isagael Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlan_Ashwood View Post
    Or maybe they are average little boys and don't like girly things? As a kid I enjoyed batman more than Barbie. Not because I was insecure.
    Umm... my DAUGHTER enjoys batman more than barbie

    Why, because it's more FUN. Gender has nothing to do with it...considering her room is painted i kid you not 'Prom Pink' (which she picked btw). But she loves Batman. She hasn't played with a barbie in months. She also seriously loves her baby dolls, playing house, building with legos, and blocks and her Dad's old toys and dreams of being (and again, I'm totally serious on this) 'the First Chicken Farmer/Astronaut to live on the Moon.

    Now, I don't play the gender game with her. I just want a smart, happy, kind, healthy, accepting kid. And we're expecting a little brother for her in a couple weeks...and if he wants to play with dolls, and DOES like barbie, well, really, more power to him. Afterall, GI Joes are dolls. Superman 'action heroes' and his kind are 'dolls' Boys play with dolls. Boys also enjoy parenting, and pretending to be Dads...Boys make excellent teachers and nurses and soldiers and anything they desire...just like girls.

    Basically, unless it requires specific genitalia (and very few careers or toys do...esp toys for children), we should be in a 'who the F cares what you wear/like' place. But, simply put, we are not.

    It's why here in the US, the Soap company 'Dove' made the ad campaign 'what does like a girl' mean to you.

    And they asked little boys (and adult women) to demonstrate
    'Run Like a Girl'
    'Throw Like a Girl'
    etc.
    And in the commercial, the little boys (and the adult women) did weak impressions of people throwing/running etc.

    Then they asked actual little girls to 'Throw like a Girl' or 'Run like a Girl' and you saw little girls, trying their hardest to be strong and fast and not weak at all.

    Then they asked the participants if 'Throw/Run like a Girl' sounded like something positive or negative....and overall, everyone said negative...although most of the children, regardless of their gender (important btw), didn't know why.
    With one little boy (who did a weak impression of a girl running/throwing btw), saying more or less 'It sounds mean, but I have a sister and I don't think she's not strong/I don't think mean things about her'.

    Now, without knowing the nephew's in question, I really don't know what they see as girlie in this game.
    Is it this ONE seasonal event? (well they need to get over that).
    Is it the way characters are drawn? Well, there's different options available and as long as you don't mind not having eyebrows (shout out to the highlanders), you can make a pretty masculine tough guy without much effort. Still, yes, many of the character options are 'softer'....but I don't overall read that softness as 'feminine' I read it as 'youthful'...which, to be fair, might be hard for eyes younger than mine to see.
    Is it that all 3 city-states are run by women?
    Is it the armor options? And if so, what specifically. Because I have a hard time believing that teen-age boys, who supposedly are looking for a masculine theme, have any problem with skimply clad bikini-cat girls. (I am basing this on the glamour choices/character creation choices many very straight, adult men make in this game). Or is it that 'if I play healer, I'm stuck in a skirt.' Which well, those gear options aren't really meant to read feminine either/even Mickey Mouse in the Sorcerer's Apprentice was wearing a Robe. Heck, isn't that all Hugh Hephner (sp?) is basically known for wearing?...and I am pretty sure 'old dude who lives in a house w/ personal grotto and LOTS of bouncing babes around IS most assuredly 'manly' by most teenage boy standards.
    The storyline is not overly biased towards women.
    The language is cleaner than many of the games the 'younger crowd' might be use to...but personally, I find that refreshing.
    It's not graphically as violent as other games...but again, that's not really a 'gender' thing.
    Even gear options that seem girlie (Look at the SCH AF set for example), exist in game, in part to adhere to male interests. The 'school-girl' thing? Yeah that's not at all a popular male sexual fantasy. Nor are 'bunny girls' a male fantasy/part of RL fantasy culture...oh wait, back to Hugh we go. So I don't know how that can actually be twisted into being truly feminine when in fact, the main reason that gear exists is in part, to cater to men and NOT to women.

    At the end of the day, it's still a game about a hero, saving the world with his shield and sword...or fists...or staff...or giant rod (and those aren't exactly considered 'girlie' weapons either).
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  10. #140
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    ^ Lol do you really expect me to read this
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