Huge Problem W/Loot Gluttony On JP Servers

[BobbinT]

Your are wrong.

The problem of the OP

is ALL about the loot system and nothing else.

First of all: Are you blind with the thread title?
Huge Problem W/Loot Gluttony On JP Servers


Also:

Ever since I transferred to a JP data center, ...

And to add this again, back in my old US server, majority players I met have way better understanding with loots, mostly because we can speak in common language. So I ask you this again: Have you ever play at JP server? Because I can see clearly that you are from non JP server. EU server, in fact.

I think BobbinT is a prejudice against NA/EU players.

Really? Seriously?

I originally came from Sargatanas, a US server (was originally Lindblum before server merge in 1.0). I HAD to move to JP server because the latency were so bad compared with 1.0 days. What I didn't realize later on is how hard english speaker trying to reach out JP players in JP servers. Had latency not being issues, I rather go back to Sargatanas rather than stuck in this server which is so hard to converse unless you can speak/type japanese. Even I have more enjoyable time playing Final Fantasy XI since servers aren't so divided regionally, unlike XIV.

Man.... I even already explain this at previous post. Seeing your post felt like you're the dumbest person ever for being too lazy to read. Don't be lazy reading older post and make a really.. really stupid assumption.

And I ask this for NA/EU server: Do you ever see shouts/yells/pf or anything that says "EN ONLY / EU ONLY". And how many "JP ONRY" you find in JP servers? This has been a huge dilemma since FF XI days which is more than a decade away.

So I tell you this again: if you never felt how you're being treated in JP servers, then you have totally no idea what we english speaker been dealing with. And I can see posters here came from US/EU servers.

Even the description from urban dictionary already felt so racist IMO:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jp+onry

[Noahlimits]

First of all: Are you blind with the thread title?
Huge Problem W/Loot Gluttony On JP Servers

But the loot "problem" happens just as much on English servers than Japanese. He only spent a FEW WEEKS on a American/English server. That's not very long at all to form a well conceived opinion. I'd say 90% of my runs since 2.0 has everyone needing on everything regardless of ilvl.

[MrCookTM]

First of all: Are you blind with the thread title?
Huge Problem W/Loot Gluttony On JP Servers

Yes, i did read this. In his post though he then does not complain about the language barrier you are talking about, he's complaining about the loot system in general and the fact that players with higher ilvl roll need on stuff they have no use for in terms of gear progression. That is NOT a jp server thing, ppl do this on every datacenter.

[mosaicex]

I play on JP server. Majority of aetherial loots gone by without anyone rolling for it 60% of the time.

[Seaverin]

maybe the OP should change the title of the thread to "For english speaking people who play in JP servers blah blah blah"

[BobbinT]

But the loot "problem" happens just as much on English servers than Japanese. He only spent a FEW WEEKS on a American/English server. That's not very long at all to form a well conceived opinion. I'd say 90% of my runs since 2.0 has everyone needing on everything regardless of ilvl.

You might be correct, assuming OP only stays short while in english server. But me, I stay more than just weeks. I'm one of the legacy players that already lived from 1.0 era, where loot system are much worse than what we have now. But even with all that, I still consider english speaking server are way better than my current one, again... if not for the lame latency problem since Sargatanas decides to be in US territory. In 1.0, my ping was around 150 ms, but last time before I have no choice but to transfer server, I get like 300+ ms. Currently I'm having around 100 ms in this server.

As with 1.0 loot system, if any of you legacies still remembers it, loots just drop randomly to one of party members, but he/she can trade to other person before time runs out. The huge problem is that there's tend to be ppl ninja-ed your loot away, some of them using the "sorry, I forgot to trade". Remember Hamlet Defense where players need to farm 9 beast coins to access the fabled "Relic Reborn" quest? I've been dealing numerous problems where the coins dropped to random person, and that said person immediately exit the instance while it was supposed to be passed to the right person when we agreed before running the instance. But you know what? I still actually have a great time running Hamlet's for like 200 times, while I already finished my coin farms in around 100 runs. You can even check my legacy achievement page, which shows exactly the total run I had there.

Despite the dramas, I had so much fun because I also have fun talking with alot of players there, good and bad. This continues to 2.0 where I still have around 3 months playing on same server.

Too bad I had to move, due to running Titan HM with 300+ ms were just too frustating for me.

And as for now, I still felt a little regret leaving old server because of the new problems I'm facing. With the huge population of JP players I'm dealing with, I had no choice but to use japanese text literally if I'm trying to survive playing here. Well... maybe not so much since there's still quite few amount of english speaker here.

Still, because of this problem, I've already faced many problems such as:
- Kicked from party for trying to talk in english.
- Kicked from party for just using (auto-translation dictionaries).
- Kicked from party without even being given a reason. Only had like 'helloes' in japanese text on beginning of run and that's it.
- Kicked from party for winning a loot, which is why this thread existed anyways.
- Black-listed for just trying to join their party finder and found out that I was a 'gaijin' (translated as outsides or non JP). What are my choices when 99% of PF list filled with JP, even some of them using the "JP-ONRY" sentence? Tried to make an english PF, only cricket sounds remains for hours.
- Alot of them are really notorious for being early-pullers when doing hunts, especially if it's JP prime hours. According to translated sources (unconfirmed though), they did that because they values their time more and don't like to waste time waiting. They still notify their hunt LS/FC, but after that they'll just start pulling right away.
- and many mores...

To summarize, the difference between english server and JP server:
- English server: Despite the end going good or turning sour, at least we can talk to each others, and easily realize which ones are the bad ones.
- JP server: Imagine playing mute sound playing with them the entire time. You'll have almost no idea what happened next. You even have to fool them thinking we're JP too by using japanese text and avoid entirely using auto-trans. Worst is that some of them can detect if you're using weird sentence, especially if those comes from google translate.

If I want to take the extreme for enjoying the game, I have to literally move my living to english speaking territories so that I can have decent latency and not having to deal with unfamiliar language. But that would be too silly. Learning japanese are not as easy as it sounds either, and even if somehow I did, JP players have quite different attitudes than english speakers and we have to try adapting to them. As of now, I have to cope with my current conditions. Doesn't mean I like it though.

So, despite ppl trying to generalize this thread as mere looting problems, I felt this case are more unique, especially since I've been living between english and JP server. And so I ask any of you, if you do play on both region servers, then please enlightened me if JP situations aren't as bad as you think.

[mosaicex]

Still, because of this problem, I've already faced many problems such as:
- Kicked from party for trying to talk in english.
- Kicked from party for just using (auto-translation dictionaries).
- Kicked from party without even being given a reason. Only had like 'helloes' in japanese text on beginning of run and that's it.
- Kicked from party for winning a loot, which is why this thread existed anyways.
etc.

I've never seen any of this happen. In fact, most of the problematic party are usually english players from *cough*Tonberry*cough* most of the time. Some Japanese are even nice enough to use auto-translate function. Also I joined JP only PF group for T10 and T11 with my client being underlined clearly English, with soldiery bonus once, even. Nobody cares.

[Iagainsti]

I think BobbinT is a prejudice against NA/EU players.

I stand by this still.