Any chance we could get a new "Legacy-mark" for the pre-Heavensward Event? =D

[Tiggy]

I do remember Yoshi mentioning something about wanting the transition to Heavensward be about as big/significant as Bahamut's appearance was at the end of 1.x. Not sure where exactly (can't be bothered to keep track of all the events), but he definitely said something along that line - then again... /point <signature> ...so, who knows what happened to that.

It's called the Battle of Ighgard and it's still on the way. We DO have a 2.55 that is going to have more story after all. Patience.

Also, the transition to heavensward is not justification for another "legacy" tattoo. It completely misses the point of the legacy tattoos to begin with. They weren't handed out for finishing the story. That was never the point at all.

[BreathlessTao]

Don't expect a big primal showin up destroying the realm and the servers get shut down for months until a new FF XIV is ready.

That's why I remember it, because it seemed so weird when he said that. Because, yeah, obviously can't pull something like that again, so...? What could he meant?

[Terin]

I really feel like people are getting hung up the notion that somehow, but introducing a new "pre-Heavensward bonus", that's somehow taking away from those who have the pre-ARR tattoo and chocobo. Status-symbols are an important part of MMO's, and even if it's one of those things that "everybody has" initially, it could eventually become something cool.

I'm not suggesting we replicate the old rewards -- I completely agree, those SHOULD REMAIN EXCLUSIVE to those players! However, should the fact that those things exist automatically preclude any possibility of introducing *new* rewards? We know that the Battle of Ishgard is supposed to be a big deal -- maybe not "the world getting destroyed" big deal, but still pretty big -- so why not make this a new tradition? At long as the rewards are different, it only adds to the game.

[Hyrist]

Sorry. I cannot support this.

What we have here is someone who wants to perpetuate elitism through the ranking. We've already had plenty of jealousy and issues with the transfer from 1.xx to 2.0. We don't need it with every patch. Please let sleeping dogs lie on this. The veteran rewards and quest rewards are rewards for going through ARR.

When ARR first came out, it was almost a negative brand in the community to have a Legacy Mark due to the jealousy, the tension was actually palpable. I do not want that to continue - nor endorce a prepetuation of some sort of veiled elitism based off seniority.

[Fenral]

That's why I remember it, because it seemed so weird when he said that. Because, yeah, obviously can't pull something like that again, so...? What could he meant?

The issue is that Yoshida is a walking hype machine, but Koji-Fox, XIV's resident loremaster, has mentioned in a few places that they can't really pull anything in-game that would have a major ripple effect on the existing quests. So it'll be something major, but also have little to no effect on the setting.

I'm expecting something similar to Revanant's Toll's upgrades happening to Ul'dah, since Ishgard will be accessible even without completing the 2.55 story. But it could also be the "Battle of Ishgard" that brings Ishgard into the Eorzean Alliance, and in the expansion they'll just be frosty bastards whose borders aren't closed.

/shrug

[Ghishlain]

I am personally against this. To me, the Legacy mark was a reward for the dedicated players who went through 1.0, through thick and thin, and reached this juncture of the game. Providing a new "Legacy mark" type tattoo, even in facsimile, would greatly diminish the value of said 1.0 Legacy Mark.

[Hito-Shura]

I really feel like people are getting hung up the notion that somehow, but introducing a new "pre-Heavensward bonus", that's somehow taking away from those who have the pre-ARR tattoo and chocobo. Status-symbols are an important part of MMO's, and even if it's one of those things that "everybody has" initially, it could eventually become something cool.

I'm not suggesting we replicate the old rewards -- I completely agree, those SHOULD REMAIN EXCLUSIVE to those players! However, should the fact that those things exist automatically preclude any possibility of introducing *new* rewards? We know that the Battle of Ishgard is supposed to be a big deal -- maybe not "the world getting destroyed" big deal, but still pretty big -- so why not make this a new tradition? At long as the rewards are different, it only adds to the game.

I believe I'm one of the few who agree with you. As I said earlier in my previous post that seems to have gone completely unnoticed, I too would like to have something substantial and relevant to the plot that binds my character to the world. I don't want what the legacy players so fervently defend and brag about, I just want my own little thing as I too supported the game and gave it a chance to grow and become what it is today.

[Sessurea]

I logged in. Reward please.

[Alacran]

To be fair, why *not* make it a tradition for each Expansion? Any time I see someone with the Legacy Chocobo, for example, I immediately know "Hey, that guy has been around for a while!", and it's very much a cool status-symbol, because it's the kind of thing you can't just buy. Even though everyone currently playing would probably acquire the new reward right away, in a couple of years, maybe then it, too, would have become a "status symbol" of sorts. Not as cool as the original Legacy rewards, but still *something*, right?

I'm not saying we're owed anything like that, mind you. Just that it would be cool, to have something to mark you as a "Second Generation player".

To be fair the mark does not say "that guy has been around for a while", it say's that guy was there when few people bothered to be. That is what a Legacy mark means, and why it should not be repeated. Im glad you think it's cool but i remember being told by friends and even random gamestop clerks that it was stupid to play a dead game.

[Stormfur]

I know they're viewed as very taboo in Japan, but having tattoo options for our characters beyond their faces (similar to the South Sea Talisman) would be awesome