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  1. #101
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    Lienn's Avatar
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    Lienn Deleene
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    Gungnir
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    You mean the scrawny kid with no HP?
    That very same! The one that spam curaga like a freak while not nuking! AT same time he's completely fragile (even more than Vanille, mind you) he does have some tremendous survivability potential! =P
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  2. #102
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    Rexus Kalev
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I'll say again, I think MRD is find as it is now. Sure it attacks the slowest, but I don't notice it since single target/weak mobs die so fast anyways. I also don't notice it on Deepvoid Slave/Batraal since I'm constantly cycling thru other abilities.

    Honestly, I don't think enough people are giving MRD a chance. However... I will concede about the whole AoE thing. They really did change how MRD plays in that fashion. It still kinda works, for stuff that dies fast... but yes, AoE attacking for MRD is not nearly as effective as it used to be.

    For AoE attacking, you kinda have to wait for the right moment to use them. You can't just use it when you see 2 mobs.

    For example:

    In the skeleton room before Batraal, we pull all the skeletons. One broad swing on them gives me 3k TP. I go Storms Path > Invigorate > Brandish 2 > Heavy Swing > Storms Path > Full Swing > Repeat if mobs not dead yet.

    Last bit, I think some people don't realize these are the first of the battle changes. I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that now AA is in, Haste/Double Attack will make its return. Also, I doubt the damage/hate algorithms will remain the same going forward....there will be tweaks here and there. It's also possible MRD will get a big boost in tanking/DPS when jobs are released.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    As it should be. I mean, who really thinks a Goldsmith should be tanking?
    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU >___>
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  3. #103
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    Alice Siuloir
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    First time partying after the patch and dear gods do I get this uproar now. Auto attack is SO slow, and at MRD 25 all I have for non-TP attack is Heavy Swing and Broad Swing. BS is low damage and HS has 60 sec timer!!! I get one good hit with HS and then have to wait for auto-att to give me TP to use anything else!!! Ridiculous and so slow! D: Faster auto-att and faster recasts on basic attacks please!!!
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassalice View Post
    First time partying after the patch and dear gods do I get this uproar now. Auto attack is SO slow, and at MRD 25 all I have for non-TP attack is Heavy Swing and Broad Swing. BS is low damage and HS has 60 sec timer!!! I get one good hit with HS and then have to wait for auto-att to give me TP to use anything else!!! Ridiculous and so slow! D: Faster auto-att and faster recasts on basic attacks please!!!

    All other classes have to wait too. Again.. it's not like other jobs are attacking every second and MRDs are waiting forever. You all exaggerate the wait a little too much. Some of you have actually fooled yourselves into thinking the class isn't even good anymore.

    And, as it's been stated numerous times, the initial AA patch was just the groundwork. There are lots of things they need to add and tweak. Give them a break and calm down a little. MRD is not the only class who is having to deal with changes or thing that just don't make much sense.
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  5. #105
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    Have you tried to use any other classes to assist? I am not saying that you should have too. But for now its seems like level all the DoW a few levels to use cross class non-tp using abilities would helpl I know little of doW, I have 50 thm and near 40 conj now, but i for arch up to 20, and to be honest, I just used thm nukes most of the time cause it was more benfitial. After reading this thread, it does seem that some other low level class abilities would assist in dealing with this issue until it is tweaked properly.
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  6. #106
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    Mog Net
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I agree, attack speed could be a bit faster, although I just have all my 0tp cost attacks set on my bar next to each other and use these along with throwing axes and I can keep up a pretty fast attack pace along with specials. If you can afford it throwing axes have a recast of 5 seconds and they build tp really fast.
    using these methods I duo alot with a 49 GLD and I manage to steal hate from him now and again.
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    Last edited by Galliano; 09-01-2011 at 02:14 AM.

  7. #107
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    Jor El
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I read some posts about not being to tank as Mrd... Sorry but if you don't know how to tank as Mrd you really fail. Mrd is one of the best tanks. Currently it's better than Gla. I do agree though that their auto attack needs to be cut in half. Either that or more tp per auto attack.
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  8. #108
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    Kuma Akuma
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by glassalice View Post
    First time partying after the patch and dear gods do I get this uproar now. Auto attack is SO slow, and at MRD 25 all I have for non-TP attack is Heavy Swing and Broad Swing. BS is low damage and HS has 60 sec timer!!! I get one good hit with HS and then have to wait for auto-att to give me TP to use anything else!!! Ridiculous and so slow! D: Faster auto-att and faster recasts on basic attacks please!!!
    For low ranks, Foresight + Fracture is the way to go. If you pick up Featherfoot + Haymaker from Pug it's even better. That's 2 extra attacks for 500tp!
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  9. #109
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    Maetilorh Rhotwilfsyn
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    Not reading any of the posts but i wanna see the Auto attack speed increased... to quote a lala i met in game "Mrd swings like an old man with a banana up its arse.." .... Both funny... and bad...
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  10. #110
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    Pandora Vainglory
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvari View Post
    Not reading any of the posts but i wanna see the Auto attack speed increased... to quote a lala i met in game "Mrd swings like an old man with a banana up its arse.." .... Both funny... and bad...
    You're doing it wrong if you need AA bumped up.
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