4 guildleves in less than 1 hour=1/3rd of the way from 49-50?

[Andros]

So I got some guildleves to test them out after the patch. 2 in Halatali, and 2 in Broken Water. I equip 2 skills, a basic attack and an aoe. I proceed to do them all on 3 stars with guardian's aspect, and get 35k xp in less than an hour.

That is more xp than most get in even a very good XP party, and all I had to do was use 2 skills. It posed no challenge at all, and when I tried 4 stars on the 5th I found I got less XP because of how the system rewards speed (seems imbalanced with difficulty settings). I know that XP chains will help balance this, but come on why so heavily encourage everyone regardless of whether they like to(or have to) play solo to do this?

I thought guildleves were no longer a (the) central feature of this game... hurry up and fix partying so I don't have to do this crap anymore.

You are just crying for the sake of crying now. Just stop that.

[Platinumstorm]

Wow. You guys completely ignored my statement.

Did it EVER occur to any of you that this faster progression is meant to account for the advent of a possible level cap raise?

I don't see a point for a level cap raise right now. Before raising a level cap you want to make sure there is sufficient content at all level ranges, and there isn't right now, so raising the cap is pointless because they don't have content to support the current levels.

[Ferth]

Wow. You guys completely ignored my statement.

Did it EVER occur to any of you that this faster progression is meant to account for the advent of a possible level cap raise?

Muru did respond to your statement. His reply detailed that higher ranked leves give more sp bonus when you finish.

Meaning that as they come out with higher ranks they will presumably come out with higher ranked levequests that provide a greater bonus upon completion.

They don't need to increase sp bonus on mindlessly easy leves now to prepare for a change they haven't even announced yet.

[Triplicus]

baaaaaaww casual players are ruining my authentic role playing experience.

[Murugan]

baaaaaaww casual players are ruining my authentic role playing experience.

It has nothing do with that, it has everything to do with there currently be no reward to play challenging or group leveling content.

[Jynx]

I can get more XP than you if I kill Marmots and Coblyns outside of Ul'dah for the next 3 years. Obviously if you do anything longer it will even out eventually.

Lets say I have a 8 hour period to play the game.

I can.

A: Every 36 hours get 40kish~ SP doing all 8 of my leves solo within a few hour barring I have anima to quickly move around. Or just do 6 if Anima and travel is an issue.

B: Do my 3-6 leves solo in one area "Uldah is great for this due to the rather short distance from Halitali to Broken water. and afterwards grind with my friends?

I don't see how the person doing option A is going to get ahead of me in any way/shape/form. Having multiple ways to gain SP is a great thing, Player A could have instead of maximizing SP gain grouped and got decent SP and a challenge anyways. I'm not saying things are perfectly balanced.

I personally think leveling is a tad too fast either way around, but a hardcore player will always be ahead of the casual player becasue they have the time/effort to put into not only maximizing SP gain, but using all avenues to obtain it quickly as possible.

No I don't think grind groups should get massive SP boosts, I personally think Leves may need a bit of scaling back though not in SP gained but perhaps time you can do them. Make it every 2 days and that would be fine with me. Although this game was not made 100% for me so I don't expect them to change that.

As long as I can get decent SP while partying I have no complaints about the Lev system, I'll just leverage it within my own playstyle as well.

Grouping or doing anything more challenging than guildleves should be a viable option for more casual players too.

It is a viable option to party as a more casual player, but it's challenging to find/create/fight with a group of people instead of soloing your leves for decent SP.

So...you do have more challenging and viable options, just because you can't find/make a party doesn't mean it isn't viable.

[Aistaraina]

Because I really want to spend all day, every day, grinding.

/sarcasm

QQ less. Grinding will be fixed with chains (and minor SP increases probably). But there has to be equivalent content for solo players to level off of. Trivial-and-meaningless-tasks (My friends and my long word for leves) are it.

On a side note. I quite enjoyed duoing Hala/BW leves on 5 star from 48-50 in 3 days.

[Jynx]

Because I really want to spend all day, every day, grinding.

/sarcasm

QQ less. Grinding will be fixed with chains (and minor SP increases probably). But there has to be equivalent content for solo players to level off of. Trivial-and-meaningless-tasks (My friends and my long word for leves) are it.

On a side note. I quite enjoyed duoing Hala/BW leves on 5 star from 48-50 in 3 days.

I have to say a Duoing partner makes things so much better. But I find that for some reason Limsa leves give more SP than Thanalan. I usually get 3.9k for Thanalan and 4.5k for Limsa.

[Tedz]

this and

ive been hoping R50 leves for months now. im actually kind of surprised they havent implemented this yet.
also, modern games use a plethora of dungeons as a means of grouping for bonus XP/loot not party camping. perhaps this is going to be the games future options to level faster than soloing.

one thing i think they need to fix is the XP LOSS for fighting multiple mobs at once. we have aoe abilities, why shouldnt we be able to aoe them without an XP minus factor?

I think the reason we are not getting exp from multiple mobs so people cant just aoe spam and get mass exp and it will prevent future Astral Burn style parties which was a big start in making FFXI go down hill. I do wish we had more of a chance to use our AoE abilities though, only time you seem to get to use them is in leves because they spawn mobs in groups. It must be frustrating for classes like Marauder.

[Scape]

at Rank 46-47 so far on my MRD I have been able to 5 star all R40 leves. getting 150-250 SP per mob and getting no less then a 6k bonus at the end.

IMO, the leves are still very good just gotta do them a bit differently. Initial SP will suck badly if do them at the same stars we use to do them on. The only thing that is lower now is the SP on what use to be the fail leves(and rightfully so). You can get an easy 5k bonus handed to you now for doing a crap leve that we use to struggle to get a total of 2k on before.

I have to say a Duoing partner makes things so much better. But I find that for some reason Limsa leves give more SP than Thanalan. I usually get 3.9k for Thanalan and 4.5k for Limsa.

You know what, I was just saying the same to people in my LS. been doing LL leves mostly, getting really good bonuses. Did some Uldah leves today and the bonuses were about 3k smaller on every single leve. Maybe its to encourage people to leave Uldah?