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  1. #71
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    Mercutial's Avatar
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    Mercutial Zenos
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    Brynhildr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Scarebearz has it right.... you can min/max all you want to eke out another .00000003 dps, but it's all for not if you're the king of cancellations.
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  2. #72
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    Zophar's Avatar
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    Mayong Mistmoore
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    So, just trying to get an understanding of the thread. Are we looking for the easiest jobs to just pick up and do well on? Or the easiest jobs to truly optimize? Cause I feel like these both have different answers. Blm is a good example. It's a very easy job to just pick up and learn to do high numbers with very quickly, but really learning to master it is another thing entirely. To a lesser extent, I feel like brd falls in this category too. Brd is widely known as the lazy man's job. And god knows there are probably more brds out there than anything. But how many have you met that really know how to play their job to max efficiency/dps? I'd say, based on my own observations, somewhere around 5%. Then there's like, drg, which, and I love the job, so it pains me to say this, is really easy to learn, and optimize. The only real tricks to it are mastering when not to use your jumps, and reading the mob to get your positionals every time.
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  3. #73
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    Aikaal's Avatar
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    How abaut if if you cast blizzard 3 between first and second eath shaker that is 140 potency more than scathe and then cast fire 3 between second and third earth shaker. If you change your element you should have only 1.5 sec cast time or something plus you will gain some mana back and do not need spam scathe that is huge dps loss?
    Only if I don't have enought mana for a Fire 1. Using B3 leads to Thunder 1 and I don't want to clip a 12 sec dot. That's a debate I'm gonna open in two weeks. I've died in T13 progression because I was casting Fire 1 in between earth shakers. I think I still try by instinct. The first earth shaker, I'll never have swift up since I use it on my opener. Second earth shaker I,m usually fine. When I have marker, I get 2 Fire I cast going on usually. I also have swiftcast. This sounds easy but I do use sprint in off-gcd and manawall also while I need to move away from my dragoon flank spot or she'll be upset.


    Someone mention he saw my T13 video. Since I've done those videos, I get a lot of pm saying how it helped their BLM improve their DPS. If the job was that easy, my videos would be a waste of time and it does not seem to be the case. BLM looks easy. In reality, it's opinion based. I spent a lot of hours to maximize my BLM to the point my job is instinct base.

    I just find Monk the easiest because it's position forgiving and you can't screw your rotation like Dragoons. Ever felt the pain when you're about to do your Chaos Thrust combo and you accidentally press Full Thrust? That hurts your feelings :< This does not happen to monks, they can't use Bootshine when they have to choose between Demolish or Snap Punch. I also find it easy with Summoner when I was to move for mechanics and I can just spam Ruin II while slowly ooming to my tears.
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  4. #74
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    Tanthalus's Avatar
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    Tanthalus Rain
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    Scarebearz has it right.... you can min/max all you want to eke out another .00000003 dps, but it's all for not if you're the king of cancellations.
    Well that's where proper sliding comes in. And I've been doing that since 2.0 so I'm actually surprised people are talking about it now.
    And my rotation works well because of my stat allocation and what I knew I needed to max my numbers. Thunder III works in to save my mana since I don't preemie cast fire that way. One other thing that throws all the best laid plans to waste. He who procs most wins :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanthalus View Post
    And my rotation works well because of my stat allocation and what I knew I needed to max my numbers.
    Does this mean you have a number of attributions point into piety in order to use T3 while retaining 5 x F1?
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  6. #76
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    Riepah Redeemer
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    BLM is easy as hell. A ton easier than BRD, it's my new go-to class when I feel like being lazy but still dish out high DPS.
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  7. #77
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Tanks have the easiest role, easiest classes I would say probably between BRD and BLM.

    Clearly someone doesn't tank.

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    I find healing as WHM much easier than SCH. Like some said before, maximizing SCH performance is complicated. Pet management, stack management, DPS potential, Warding pre-casting for mechanics, placing shadowflares/sacred prisms, pet management.

    SMN next.. For me the struggle with controlling pets is real

    I feel like it's an easier question to answer if you think of it as which class is easier to screw up
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 03-11-2015 at 11:08 AM.

  8. #78
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    Beck Eldrin
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    Adamantoise
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Melees can do this during ES on the first phase. [Cover] is better used on the BLM on phase 1.

    http://a.pomf.se/kypsca.mp4
    Question for whoever uses this method. I'm new to t13 and wondering how you handle megaflare with the poo where it is? I can maintain GL3 by dropping poo in the corner and shoulder tackling back in. Then I have that space available to move out of the flare circle if I don't have to stack. I feel like I could be blocking myself in or out if I drop the poo along the flank like that. Any insight?
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  9. #79
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    Tanthalus Rain
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Does this mean you have a number of attributions point into piety in order to use T3 while retaining 5 x F1?
    No it means I cast my T3 in my umbral downtime. Casting off too early leaves my mana at a loss and the t3 provides just enough time for a full allocation to happen. That said I'm not (and I've seen most top tier blms aren't either) so rigid with a set cast system. I avoid dmg above dealing it out and I still end up on top, that said I've never had to go search the internet to optimize my dps. I learned the class and subsequently learned where my ins and outs are depending on the fight.
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  10. #80
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    I think BLM and BRD are the easiest classes by far. As a BRD you just need to be on safe positions, same as BLM. I will say BLM is a little harder because he is a caster and loses tons of dps due to mechanics, BRD needs only to move while do skills.
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