4 guildleves in less than 1 hour=1/3rd of the way from 49-50?

[MariyaShidou]

It's fine as is now. In fact, I bet won't be long before someone will come and complain how 4 guildleves don't give a full rank from 49-50.

[Dreadnought]

Do your leves every reset at your leisure and find groups to party grind with for further sp when waiting for next reset.

The 8 hours was for a single grind from 46-49. Extreme amount of time for a very large gain in sp.

Nobody is pigeon-holed. It's called options.

You sound like you have something against solo-friendly content. In that case, given how SE has made it clear time and time again that this game will cater to casuals as well as hardcore players and will be solo-friendly, you may not enjoy your stay in this game.

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Well to be fair you're doing R40 leves as an R49. Maybe if we had R50 leves they would be harder. Doing R30 leves as an R32 Marauder I had to use quite a few of my skills since I was doing them solo.

ive been hoping R50 leves for months now. im actually kind of surprised they havent implemented this yet.
also, modern games use a plethora of dungeons as a means of grouping for bonus XP/loot not party camping. perhaps this is going to be the games future options to level faster than soloing.

one thing i think they need to fix is the XP LOSS for fighting multiple mobs at once. we have aoe abilities, why shouldnt we be able to aoe them without an XP minus factor?

[Murugan]

There is. It's the ability to grind against high rank mobs that give 300+ sp per kill as long as you want - stuff you cannot normally kill yourself at a half-decent rate, and sp you cannot get solo.

Comparing capped, limited content sp to grinding is silly.

Everyone can do their leves solo whenever they want. Someone who always does only that will always get smoked by someone who party grinds regularly.

All you're actually saying is "unless someone spends as much time partying and grinding as I do, they shouldn't even hope to be able to rank up at a decent rate."

No I'm saying that people shouldn't have to devote 8 hours a day to grinding in order to compete with those who like to level through guildleves, because I don't like to do guildleves. A lot of people don't like to do guildleves, or sidequests for that matter. So your answer to us is "oh it's okay though, because you can grind for an unlimited amount of time so in the end it works itself out".

Well maybe there are some people out there who both like to group, and like to do things other than grind nonstop 24/7. Why should people who solo get to spend less time leveling than those who like to group? I don't see the need for such a severe handicap because some people can't be bothered to do things with others. Being antisocial doesn't seem like something we need to go out of our way to reward people for.

[Ferth]

I think the bigger concern is that he was one shotting the leve mobs.

I have nothing against the sp bonus from finishing a leve right now provided it takes skillful playing and offers a challenge. but I do have issue with how stupid easy leves are.

Casual != easy.

[Arcell]

I think the bigger concern is that he was one shotting the leve mobs.

I have nothing against the sp bonus from finishing a leve right now provided it takes skillful playing and offers a challenge. but I do have issue with how stupid easy leves are.

Casual != easy.

But again to be fair he's an R49 doing R40 leves. We don't have R50 leves yet which is why this can happen.

[Murugan]

I think the bigger concern is that he was one shotting the leve mobs.

I have nothing against the sp bonus from finishing a leve right now provided it takes skillful playing and offers a challenge. but I do have issue with how stupid easy leves are.

Casual != easy.

Exactly, unfortunately if you make them more difficult they will complain. I don't even care if they reduce guildleve XP to be honest, but people should be rewarded for doing something more challenging than this drivel.

[Murugan]

But again to be fair he's an R49 doing R40 leves. We don't have R50 leves yet which is why this can happen.

It happens at all levels, you are just doing guildleves in a counter intuitive way by trying to challenge yourself. Didn't you get the memo, apparently that isn't how you are supposed to play an MMO in 2011!

Stop living the past!!! Turn off (your brain), Log in, and tune out dude. The rallying cry of the new counterculture of anti-intellectual video gamers.

[Ferth]

I was just doing a leve at horizon on my rank 21 Thaumaturge. The leve mobs were rank 28... several fights didn't even see me losing stoneskin. Even the fight at the end against 3 mobs at once took barely any effort. That's a bit ridiculous.

[Arcell]

It happens at all levels, you are just doing guildleves in a counter intuitive way by trying to challenge yourself. Didn't you get the memo, apparently that isn't how you are supposed to play an MMO!

Except it doesn't. Again I was doing R30 leves today as an R32 at about 3 stars. It took quite a bit of work on my part to get through some of them, especially those with the trickier monsters.

[Ferth]

Except it doesn't. Again I was doing R30 leves today as an R32 at about 3 stars. It took quite a bit of work on my part to get through some of them, especially those with the trickier monsters.

So soloing a leve at the difficulty for what... band? Which I believe is supposed to be atleast 3 players doesn't seem too easy for you?